Is voluntary layoff possible? Anyone has done it already succesfully? What severance is planned for voluntary layoffs.

Let’s pretend that you are an innovative, highly-experimental startup, scaleup, or small business. You made $2M in revenue in 2023, you paid $1M in salaries, and you had another $1M in rent, equipment, travel, and many things on the above list... — read more 

It's been about 4 weeks since SAP announced they would be offering an Voluntary Early Retirement Package to some and also that they would be Laying off some other amount of employees.  In total if we really believe the storyline (?) we will exit 8000... — read more 

If you receive severance pay from SAP NA, can you still find a new job in SAP EMEA or ANZ? is there any time cool down restrictions? I heard there is a 2 years non hire period?

Any update on what is happing with UK&I redundancies? Last year was a mess. What sort of numbers are we looking at ? Should be less especially as we had layoffs last year ! ! All updates welcome .

I would expect NA ( and specifically US) to be the focal point for the layoffs. This is because the HC has grown significantly over the last 15 years as a result of all the acquisitions SAP has made which have been almost entirely in this... — read more 

So many of you seem desperately unhappy here. Nobody's forcing you to stay, so why do you?

Have managers to this point made and entered their decision on Move SAP stock grants for their team? Also, about what percent of the team gets this?

My job is repetitive and monotonous. Most of the time, I'm bored out of my skull. It wasn't always like this, but all the changes, micromanaging, and the refusal to take any ideas into consideration that don't come from those at the top have made it... — read more 

How can CK have 82 percent approval on Glassdoor and how can SAP in general have a 4.3 review rating? Even with all the layoffs and other negative changes that have been happening in the past several years. Do only satisfied people leave reviews or... — read more 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/feb/17/working-from-home-can-bring-big-health-benefits-study-finds

This is about CEO’s in particular, but can also apply to any corporate climber: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackmccullough/2019/12/09/the-psychopathic-ceo/?sh=3e66b091791e

The notices for the Voluntary Early Retirement program came out today ( Friday) in NA, don't know about other countries or what the specifics other countries may be getting as to their packages. would be good if anybody has info to post it so we... — read more 

The issue of how inept our leaders are has been well stated on this platform a la @OP+1qVqEAwS. The release of Punit Renjen before he EVEN took over the Chairman role is a major statement yet again on how SAP bungles one leadership position... — read more 

https://www.usnews.com/news/technology/articles/2024-02-11/sap-board-chair-designate-to-resign-ala-pietila-nominated-as-successor

https://www.eqs-news.com/news/adhoc/sap-se-sap-announces-changes-to-the-supervisory-board/1993615#:~:text=Punit%20Renjen%20has%20chosen%20to,Annual%20General%20Meeting%20as%20successor

News about to drop in 3-2-1

Have the 8k names be selected by now and if so, would the line managers have been informed yet?

Wow…I cannot believe how disorganized they are with this round of voluntary packages. They said in a call yesterday that it would be 2 more weeks before notifications are sent. So poorly executed for a company of this size that preaches empathy and... — read more 

For example, MU AE (IAE in south region) or ISBN AE (ISNM specialist ae aligned to a patch)

The Jeffersons theme song? Really? Is no one embarassed by this lame effort to keep the minions calm about rto?

How can it be that difficult for SAP to actually retain recognized, experienced leaders to run the corporation ?  Well, it must be staggeringly difficult when you look at our  leadership at both Global and Regional levels.   SAP has been and... — read more 

https://www.cio.com/article/1303774/sap-and-ibm-under-scanner-of-indian-investigative-agency-for-air-india-deal.html

After having read this article : https://www.business-standard.com/companies/news/sap-labs-to-double-artificial-intelligence-talent-base-in-india-by-2024-123091400860_1.html I wonder if the plan would not be to replace old German ABAP developers with... — read more 

Read this article to understand parts of this post: https://joshbersin.com/2024/02/why-do-companies-hire-too-many-people/ As the news of 8K effected SAP colleagues has sunk in, and as tech industry layoffs continue, it’s safe to say that what many... — read more 

How did we get here is something  which  is as much about organizational structure as it is about market scale.  The fact is there are probably many reasons as to how we got to such a place, I focus on one of these below. It has already been stated ... — read more 

Want a lousy company. Layoffs anyone?

With the new GTM towards new customer archetypes, what are your thoughts of how the sales function will be impacted? Will some mid market field sales members be downgraded into lower T grades in the Digital Hub? Will sales specialists for farm... — read more 

This is an open question. For sure as SAP has evolved and grown it has always invested and spent money on the nicest offices in whatever geography we were in. All of our offices were built to impress. When you just look at North America, SAP has... — read more 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-31/sap-employees-protest-rule-for-three-day-a-week-return-to-office

What does the experts think? Some factors against it for companies: Trusting external cloud providers with sensitive data Cloud benefits vs incremental costs Failed migrations, difficult customisations Data lock-ins and access lockouts in... — read more 

Make no mistake they should call it what it is outsourcing and not restructuring. Last year it was laying off people in higher paying markets and moving the jobs to India, Brazil and Budapest. This will more than likely be the same especially since... — read more 

The recording of the global employee meeting last week has been heavily censored. For the first time ever SAP are not making a recording of an all-employee meetings available for all, so if you missed it because of your timezone or by putting... — read more 

As it turns out, Punit Renjen had a much easier path towards our Chairman role than perhaps meets the eye. That is due to the fact that all of the largest SAP shareholders (who of course vote for the Chairman) are all customers of Deloitte. This ... — read more 

Any thoughts or rumors on how the layoffs will impact shared service delivery teams.