Just why is our management not taking pay cut?? oh yes, over-leveraged during good times and individual losses from plunge in em stocks. We employees now helping to pay for their losses, no bonus and no increment... ridiculous.
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An “incompetent” leader by definition is someone whose action destroys camaraderie, instill gossip, encourage dishonesty, and prevent people from speaking freely. ... “Incompetent” leaders tend to use their own weapons to get noticed and promoted. From all the past comments listed, the description is a perfect fit EM Singapore leaders.
@1ncpy+16zEvLP3 try go interview g$k how it feels getting the best deal for the exit and leaving ops tech bonus unresolve. Those left may not be well compensated. Ops tech got short changed. PIP warriors stayed behind deserve huge respect choosing to climb the steepest mountain, despite an exit option. Please show respect for the unsung warriors.
The UK is poised to bring forward its ban on new fossil fuel vehicles from 2040 to 2030 to help speed up the rollout of electric vehicles across British roads. Game over for Dinosaurus technology...
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I did hear similar comment from my supervisor: PIP is to help employees to give them another chance to be more successful elsewhere.
I was literally rolling my eyes when they said this. Guess that's how HR taught the supervisors on PIP communication effectiveness ...
Other MNC Senior executives are taking pay cuts in an attempt to show solidarity with their employees who are being downsized in unprecedented numbers. And while forgoing a few high-end salaries may be immaterial to the bottom line, companies whose leaders don’t follow suit face reputational risks for years to come.
Have all the PIP employee kicked by the company now? Just curious about why people chosen PIP, put themselves into hell and got kicked at the end.
We can see clearly how useless the management in singalore, they are totaly loss. Safety incidents on the rise, and employee trust in management drop to the bottom. Real leadership is tested at time like this, do something practical, lead by example, dont just talk useless things like stay focus, do your lpsa, and load your employee with tons of unproduvtive works. Lead by example by taking pay cut, play more attention to employee feeling, and dont hold useless communication wasting everybody time.
@1mhxq+16zEvLP3 I did not see it. Not in Chemical. Can you share it here?
Just wait until the next layoff wave hits Singapore. More jobs will be let go! :)
I did catch that. It's hilarious, even the PIP process is distorted. Yes indeed, its a gift to the Company (aka Management). Soon EM will be bled dry by them, manufacturing sites should become less efficient with majority of compensation given to the management/overpaid FLS.
Why would any talent join/stay in a place with such a culture?
"Gift" to the company according to chemical? wow means we loyal employees are not needed anymore. Thanks for sharing here @1mhxq+16zEvLP3. We employees are not important to EM anymore...
did anyone catch the chemicals communication? they did mention that PIP is a gift for the company. it is clear now.
Which part of EMRE?
EMRE and Reliability are a waste of space and $$$
@1kvbx+16zEvLP3 No doubt. Too many Staff Development Managers, supervisors & advisors around
Management has totally no value outside of EM and probably no company can match their pay for the things they do. EM has become absolutely toxic for getting rid of engineers and technicians (whom are the ones doing real work). Watch out for more reliability events coming up and lets see if KLTC can respond to those.
If anyone deserves to be laid off, it should be the managers. Why are they paid so much to ask questions and churn work? It is sad to see the working level getting laid off when they are the ones that truly add value to the business.
Instead of complaining here and seeking MoM’s attention (which will never happen, by the way), I think we’d be better off to take stock of our existing savings and shave off all liabilities - like the mortgage, car loan, credit cards, personal loans, etc.
Cos if you do lose your job, it will be helluva change that you need to make to your lifestyle, spends and money drain.
Question for all: If you cannot get another job (not to mention an equal-paying one, at that), can your savings last you for a reasonable period of time?
How about the family / children (tuition, expenses and all)?
Sell house / downgrade, sell car, sell ..... and then what?
senior management sending people to visit this forum. Is our management mentally so weak and insecure? May be is time to grow up.
Senior management has confirmed that they like NSI - and frankly, there hasn’t been much of a backlash in any kind. So good night and good luck my friends.
Winning through WIN. :)
WIN is a joke for Singapore.. lol.. but I usually get my free meals there! Great times!
Definitely not. The current environment and situation makes things so shady. Some SLSs have favoritism towards female employees and here we are empowering them through WINS which have no other value except for free lunches. Look at how many female SLSs in the refinery past few years and look at how we are doing now.
I'm not the only one who thinks the workplace is getting more toxic, more people blaming others to save their own back right?
Pushed back and asked to retire....
Is G5K pushing back?
Good luck to those not planning their exit.
Too late for an exit. Just have to hang on. The job market is full of EM resumes and yet so many remain shows you how dire the situation is.
Bunch of us will get burnt by this study. House is on fire.
Need to hurry think of the next high profile senior KOs to write nice words for me, hope they can save my job. Scratch your back, you scratch mine. Wasting each other time and resources, few thousands of us spending two hours each, back and forth? How much time wasted for whole corporation??
What are the rumored numbers for Singapore study? 2000? 3000? Surely more than the US for sure. After all, Singapore office is just a colony.
we operations sent union talk to gsk for bonus matter, no good news but only learn that he retiring with lots of $...sad
@1kaay+16zEvLP3 I don’t think that GSK is pushing back, if at all! He will happily retire with millions in savings, EM stocks and directorship fees!
The next wave of PIP and PIL for NSIs will certainly be there in 3Q2021.
But way before that, expect the Singapore country study to have completed and we shall see the decimating impacts of HW3 and TMTS hit first.
No one in Singapore pushing back except for GSK? Needs to band together in order to be stronger - otherwise, you just get bullied into submission. Something needs to get done before another round of NSI hit us.
Please include all the staff development managers in Emit.
If you work long enough and you should know these highly paid Mr/Ms NATO (No Action Talk Only) DO NOT deserve to be paid so high; These included SLS and Lead positions.
Yes, Singapore employees (with CPF and the 3-mth AWS) is high cost ... only next to Japan, in AP.
A mid-career executive’s salary, including EM stock options will be hovering near SGD450K+ pa.
A senior DH’s salary will touch SGD300K+ pa ... all on a 15-mth basis.
Given a strong SGD, and converting that to USD, Euros, or worse AUD, plus their higher taxation there, makes a Singaporean managerial-MPT look relatively well-remunerated on a net income basis!
Singaporeans are docile and will just quietly leave or do the NSI. No one is going to pursue a class action law suit against Singapore EM.
So, just take the 8% NSI signed sealed and delivered from Australia in 2021. Remember what management said - the door is always open if you are not happy. Stop disturbing the masters of the universe in Houston and Dallas and go back to work in the fields you peasants.
in sg em there is no transparency, lousy public communication, union not strong. now we employees gets affected.
Back to NMPT comments from below,
I beg to differ. Why technicians don’t deserve PIP/PIL.
It’s true you all put in blood/sweat/tears with inherent work hazard. That’s why you guys are getting paid better than other diploma level jobs.
Secondly, do you even know how many incidents or losses Exxon has occurred due to COOs ( operator errors ). From my experience. I have encountered many technicians, most of them execute tasks without thinking. Therefore causing incidents etc. which can be easily prevented.
So shouldn’t PIP/PIL serve as a wake up call for y’all ? To not be complacent and ignorant.