How did you inform your boss that you are applying for another position? I am afraid that I will not get a new job. It might ruin our relations and so I risk being a very easy target on the list of some possible future cuts. What is the safest strategy when looking for a new job internally?
Also, I’ve heard from a lot of people that internal jobs are mostly only given to brown-nosers, so that also demoralizes me a bit.
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My Manager was the one who notified me on the Internal job posting not because he wanted to do me any good or he wanted to boost my career .It was a trap and he was making me a Lab rat for his little experiment. I was a trouble maker in the team who asked the right questions , pointed out process gaps and challenge the superiors. He somehow manipulated me to apply for that internal job and I felt intimidated . He planned it with his boss which he got into the organisation and they both worked together as best buddies in the previous company. I now never speak up and do my work in silence as I realised that's what you have to do to survive here . His plan never worked as the offshore manager was not so impressed with my job and the process was also messed up .
I did it in 2015. I didn't tell my manager till I knew I had the new job and in a few days, HR would be contacting my department head to let them know about the transfer.
In my case, my manger was a despicable person that couldn't get anyone to agree to work for him, so I knew I had nothing to worry about even if he found out.
My suggestion is to move forward without informing your manager. Policy states that you must tell your manager after "mutual interest" is established between the employee and the hiring manager. Not sure how you can establish mutual interest without interviewing - especially at this place (who knows what you're getting into). Tell your manager only if you think they are offering you the position.
I've found the company is good about hiring internally, but the raises that come with these moves are much smaller compared to making the same move externally - but much better than staying in the same position and getting your 2% (maybe) annual raise that kicks in around July (which means nothing after this morning's inflation numbers).
Apply for everything! Corporate policy is that you only have to notify your manager if you're selected for an interview.
But good luck getting any kind of response from the useless recruiters.
I think it’s dependent upon a bunch of factors. Do you have a good relationship with your boss? Are you interviewing for the job down the hall where your manager knows the other manager? Are you moving cities/offices?
I would be inclined to not tell the manager unless the job is so close to what you do now that that you think they’ll immediately get a call about your application. Most jobs won’t internally hire you until they talk to your manager, however, so maybe you could ask the new manager to give you a heads up at the end of the process to inform your current manager before they call to get your current manager’s opinion of you.
When I moved internally, I moved cities and from operations into a business line, so there wasn’t any risk of the new manager knowing my old manager, and vice versa. I know however in operations that many of my fellow former colleagues would jump around laterally every few years to try new teams, and all those managers know each other. In my case, the recruiter told me that I was at the end of the process and that it would be appropriate at that time to let my current manager know, as they’d be getting a call about me within the coming days. Maybe you can ask that the same heads up be given to you.
Is there something you like about this company that makes you want to apply for another position internally? Do you think working in another department would be any better than the one you are in now?
The best way to make money at BNY Mellon is to leave the company and come back. When you are considered an external hire, the manager can offer you much more money than if you are moving internally. Makes zero sense, but that is the way the company has operated for years.