Let’s have some pay transparency. Location/level/base/bonus/years at the bank
56 replies (most recent on top)
NYC area / J / 145K / 10k / 5 years
PIT / L / $135k / 20k / 7 years
Oriskany / G / 46k / 0 / 6-7years
Oriskany/G/46k/0/22yrs
HTX/J/$98k/1%/6mnths
NYC/L/182/40 // 2 years
Lake Mary,FL/K/128K/30k/9 years
NYC/H/110k/5-10%/1yr
PIT / K / 117k / ~6k / 13yrs
Exactly, @6ywm!
My group SHOULD have been spending time on thigs such as migrating our apps to .net core so they could run in linux since our architects STILL don't have a solution for windows containers. But instead we spend our time doing other people's job such as giving system overviews to the latest new team doing penetration tests or filling out archer exceptions for issues found in "our application" that are totally nexen issues.
@5oug, nope. Developers should develop and architects should architect. Of course each should have a basic understanding of each other's specialties, but they should NOT be doing each other's jobs unless your company only has IT people.
And as I stated, I SHOULD have been focusing on modifying our systems to use the new SMS and authentication. And that should have been done in short sprints before we even started migrating to GF..
NYC/K/155/?/1.5 years
Nyc/L/180k/25k/4 years
I’m a distributed software developer who does all of the things that @2xuq doesn’t think that he should be doing, but have been basic skillsets for developing distributed systems for 23 years.
If you’re building distributed systems you’re going to have to get out of the mindset of simply coding. How could possibly develop without understanding new SMS and authentication, creating design diagrams and URLS for web apps, web services and MQ servers. And understanding LTM's, GTM's and F5 appliances are critical. Everything that you’re naming should be your first questions on any modern development project.
COBOL and BASIC aren’t coming back. You’re simply complaining about the pace of change. This isn't a job for anyone who doesn’t love and look at it as a hobby. If that’s not you, then you should retire to TSG where you can push paper to slow the pace of change until you retire.
@4nxt, because it's WAY more efficient to have people do the job that is their specialty. Not to mention that it's usually don't with fewer mistakes. My experience at BK is that application programmers are required to know and do everything from system administration, database administration, network engineering, business analysis, testing, etc, etc. Then they wonder why they can't hand off the work to offshore programmers.
We SHOULD be able to go to TSG and ask for a secure, scalable, reliable server with DR capability and they should do the rest.
Sound like you were working at your top competence level, needed a lot of help and managed to pick up some new skills. How can this be a bad thing? What a Debbie Downer.
@3yxc+1oltpxZ
That was EXACTLY my experience. Application Architects can and do build full stack applications on physical or virtual boxes. TSG can only babysit boxes.
NYC / S / 275K / 50K / 9 yrs
all TSG does is sit on calls, fiddle with excel sheets of always stale data, come up with "process improvements" that get changed again after 6 months, butt in everyones business on SOWs, and work remote in places like Miami and NC. i sure hope they get paid less
As an application programmer I find our architects to be pretty good technically, but severally lacking in basic management. When migrating to GF they pretty much guided us but made us do all the work. Instead of me focusing on code changes required for the new SMS and authentication I had to learn their job and create design diagrams and URLS for our web apps, web services and MQ servers. I know WAY more than I should about LTM's, GTM's and F5 than I should.
Software Architecture…. the people responsible for our spaghetti system infrastructure
If only you knew…
@2shy, I guess you're saying you weren't a good one then.
@2xu
No good Application Architect even worries for a second about a layoff. They’re simply too busy. The good ones who are called back can name their price. It’s a very consistent organizational pattern. When I left I blocked all of the right phone numbers and simply couldn’t be happier.
“ To the Ks making over 150k that aren’t in NYC, what do you do?”
Software Architecture…. the brains. TSG is the brawn, makes much less as it’s really the clerical side of tech. Their major deliverables most years is bureaucracy
To the Ks making over 150k that aren’t in NYC, what do you do? I have access to Operations and ASD salary figures by grade/cost code/ location. Even some M grades that are relationship managers aren’t paid that high.
Assuming you aren’t lying, count your lucky stars you haven’t been laid off yet. People that are J grade in NYC making 85k are laid off because they are allegedly too expensive.
I think I’m getting the short end of the stick. I’m same job grade as a lot of these others, been here longer and make 40k of not more less
@1flf is correct.
Staying at the same company for more than 2-3 years costs you a lot in compensation. This is known as the loyalty tax. Not only do loyal employees end up compensated less that new hires, they are also more likely to be given additional work without an adequate pay increase.
Google it.
Oriskany M/250k/10%/8yrs
Pay transparency comes only with interviewing and getting an offer.
This, in a nutshell, is exactly why you need to move every couple of years. It’s not unusual to be hired and make more than your manager.
Prepare to be jealous:
PGH / L / 178K/<5% / <7 years
K Max is around 175-180k and midpoint 135k. its all about ranges and where you fall in.
NYC/SMD/S Level/$750k all-in
PIT / S / $235k / ~$125k / 16 yrs
NYC / J / $120k / 5-10% / 5 years
Pitt: I/70k/17-18%/8 years but didn’t have true salary growth until leaving ops
There is no way in PGH a K is 180 and an L 185. Pure bs.
PGH / L / 185k / <5% / <10 years