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401K Loan, Layoff and Distrobution

Question to all, I got laid off in 6/2017, I know about penalty on loans that existing, however, can I make an early distrobution from my 401K in calendar year 2018? I know about the penalties and tax implications, however, is there anything that would prevent me from performing an early/partial distrobution?

Looking for responses from those knowledgeable in this area or those that have performed such a distrobution in a similair situation.

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Post ID: @OP+PFB13U9

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This makes no sense. Plan rules may or may allow you to take partial withdrawals after separation, but you will be taxes and penalized below age 59 1/2. I am surprised they loaned you money from the plan and laid you off

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Post ID: @icgu+PFB13U9

Make sure you read your paperwork very closely. Some financial companies have rules on rolling over your 401K to an IRA and being eligible to rejoin as an employee within a period of time. For example, Wachovia had a clause that meant if you rolled over your 401K to another company after separation you could NOT be hired as an employee within 12 months (or could be 18 months) after. Not sure what the purpose of this was but make sure this doesn’t apply. It seems few and far between for people to get laid off and rehired quickly at BAC. But you don’t want to screw up any chances to make a choice.

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Post ID: @1gbv+PFB13U9

I used to work with 401ks at Merrill Lynch. You can withdrawal the money from the plan at any time since termination is a distributable event. If you are 44 years of age you will be subject to the 10% early withdrawal penalty as well as taxation at your ordinary income tax rate of which any amount payable to you they will withhold 20% up front. Once terminated I dont believe they allow partial distributions (you can check with them to make sure). If that is the case you can take a total payout and only have what you need payable to yourself and roll the rest over to avoid taxation. I hope this helps.

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Post ID: @1pra+PFB13U9

@zyq

Yes it does make sense. You will have to pay taxes on any distributions you take (assuming non-roth 401k). Also, you will have to pay a penalty for withdrawing prior to 55. I believe the penalty is 10%. Under exceptional circumstances (medical bills) you are allowed to withdraw certain amount of $ without penalty.

If you decide to roll over ask for available promotions from new broker. The promotions range from free trades, cash back, gift cards to air/hotel miles.

Finally, research shorting the VXX or buying deep in the money puts as a source of income. Then protect against 2008-2009 like scenarios by buying out of the money calls and financing those by selling calls even further away from the strike.

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Post ID: @1ztj+PFB13U9

To perform withdrawal you first have to convert your 401k to an IRA.

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Post ID: @1hlk+PFB13U9

Let the new company handle the transfer. It always the me about a week to transfer the funds.

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Post ID: @oeo+PFB13U9

Roll it to another company, the sad thing is merrill has 60 days to complete the rollover, so if you need cash fast not a good option

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Post ID: @joi+PFB13U9

So another question, I'm the orginal poster of this question........I just called Merrill Lynch 401K and they said my account is designated as RETIREE therefore I am able to take early withdrawals (with tax implications)......question is I'm 44 years old with 19 years of service when I was laid off in 6/2017..............does this make any sense to anyone with knowledge of this?

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Post ID: @zyq+PFB13U9

You should never keep your 401k with your former employer. They will always charge you commission for investing in any of their funds. Just look at the details for each fund. It is wise to move to low cost online brokers ie: TDA, Etrade, etc. These will only charge you for the buy/sales and the costs are minute ($7-$10). Also, there at no holding period restrictions and you may invest in CD, stocks, derivatives, ETFs etc. Once you have found another job you have the option to roll it into their 401k which I would not recommend as the fund options will be limited with a sizable commission

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Post ID: @dws+PFB13U9

This happened to me in 2011 - I was laid off and I needed money.

They did not allow me to do a withdrawal.

I ended up rolling the 401k into a Schwab IRA which allowed me to do withdrawals. I opened that Schwab account just to be able to do this... I've moved 50% of the money into the IRA and kept the remaining 50% (paid penalty, taxes, etc.)

I hope this helps.

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