And stop vesting in peace at our expense and then layoff employees to fund their excessive pay.
What frustrates me the most
What is really frustrating is that there are no clear and consistent criteria for who will be the LRd. When it comes to cuts, those who provide much more value to the company are in a subordinate position compared to those who are well connected... — read more
Cisco is Doomed Until CEO Mandates That ALL Employees Work Five Days in Office
80,000 Work From Home Part-Timers Will Be The Final Nail In The Coffin For Cisco
I don't buy it
Do you think that Cisco cares enough to put impacted people in open positions? I certainly don't.
Cisco Redundancy it’s not the role it’s personal
I’ve been through Cisco redundancy. It’s awful, once you start demonstrate the exec is choosing the person out of revenge and not the role, Cisco unleash accusations with no merit and lie like it’s going out of fashion. Cisco completely ignore their... — read more
Start by cutting these useless positions
CSE - They literally provide no value while most are grade 12's or higher! Renewals Managers - Redundant, let account teams manage renewals, they do anyway CSS - Zero value Maria Martinez - SERIOUSLY! All she does is create BS initiatives, again NO... — read more
Layoffs? Let’s talk about all the things wrong with Cisco.
All the things wrong with Cisco: Marketing CX Software/Licensing Strategy DNA Acquisitions WFH Management Inexperienced/Young sales team Internal trainings & meetings Add yours (We are one of their partners) — read more
Seriously how is CR keeping his job?
Look at CEO interviews for other tech companies. They are so much smarter and more knowledgeable and insightful about their businesses.
Radio Silence
How are there still no updates? This is beyond effed up. Don’t buy their lies - this is about cost cutting. If it wasn’t, it wouldn’t be across the board, and they’d have their plan already.
LR delayed to January in Canada
LR delayed to January in Canada due to legal requirements regarding employment notices/delays.
Level of anger
Never seen so much anger for a LR in my life. It's how it was handled. ER announcement before showing staff respect. The weeks of waiting, for everyone. The golf trip in the middle of it all. The impending recession and recognition that many... — read more
LR going on for years, that must count for tens of thousands of ex-employees who won't be nice to Cisco when they meet again in their next role.
This should result in an accumulated effect of losing business over the years due to hostile and unfavorable view. Do you think this is happening ?
Lists going out this week?
I heard today the lists for LR should be out to notifying managers today r tomorrow. Anyone know if its true?
Are Managets of PMs going to be impacted?
I heard that during the Leader Check-in after the Earnings call, Maria specifically called out PM Leaders of other PMs as an example of who would be impacted. Anyone else hear that?
50 more engineers to be laid off to afford these RSUs from Scott
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/858877/000120919122059459/xslF345X03/doc4.xml
Market is not ideal, but...
Don't be discouraged by stories that the market is very bad. No it's not. In general, it is quite functional. I have three interviews next week. I had to put in a lot of effort, send a large number of applications, expand my network of contacts... — read more
Cisco culture
Just a post to see if those in Cisco think the culture in Cisco has improved or declined. There was a recent interview where someone senior in Cisco said moral was strong and never better. I’m a customer now but also an ex employee.
Arista - 13 top level posts on TheLayoff since 2016
Compare and contrast to the number of posts for Cisco in any given week. Also look at how many Cisco posts are the same because no one can read the previous hundred posts on the same topic. This reflects badly on the worker bees as well as... — read more
Do you think that attrition will increase after the cuts?
I have heard from many people that they do not intend to stay here for much longer, even if they survive all this, if they have to take on the extra work of LRd people. There is no doubt that survivors will be overwhelmed more than ever, but I... — read more
Extended anxiety
I am mentally preparing for the event that I receive a notice while the job market is still very bad. On the other hand, uncertainty is the worst for me. The manager wants great productivity, and these days I don't even know how I manage to... — read more
You Can’t Fire People Like That In Europe
https://www.independent.ie/business/technology/news/twitter-has-reinstated-senior-irish-executive-sinead-mcsweeney-following-generic-firing-email-high-court-told-42185817.html It shouldn’t be difficult to hire and easy to fire in the US! Vote Blue... — read more
Americas Sales layoff meeting scheduled
Only 30 minutes. Clearly they won’t be taking Q&A.
Pretending is exhausting
Is everyone pretending? I'll have had 3 one-on-ones with my manager by December 12th. They are unbelievably superficial and barely last the allotted time. The last one was 15 minutes of small talk. We have a town hall with a bunch of powerpoints... — read more
While they golf in Hawaii, you suffer
Never forget. If you aren't LR'd, ask yourself if you really want to stay at a company like this. Bunch of psychopaths in charge
Feeling nostalgic?
Despite everything, I still love my job here. Cisco has many issues, but good leadership could make many improvements. However, these leaders have lost their way. Sometimes I feel nostalgic. I remember how it used to be really nice to contribute... — read more
Mental health and cruel leadership
Leadership just needs to tell people. This is high level evil, this wait. Just get it over with.
Slow projects
Things that once did not need speeding up are now moving at a snail's pace. Have you noticed how projects have become much slower than expected? The reason for this is not clear to me at all.
100% Remote/WFH - where to move in California
Lot of people are recommending Fresno, but San Diego area seems quite good as a move from Pleasanton. Any recommendations for someone in the 921 team?
BREAKING NEWS - Chuck and the ELT at Four Seasons Hualalai ALL Week
Nov 29th - Dec 3rd Field Sales Party with select employees and spouses flying first class to Hawaii Not To Worry-The 4,000 Layoffs will cover the $200M+ cost for this week's boondoggle
Continuous layoff cycle
I haven't been here long but I'm already getting tired of the constant anxiety about whether and when there will be more cuts, whether I'll be a target even though I'm doing my best, etc. When did constant layoffs become the norm here? I guess... — read more
Sales and Marketing may not know of any changes on Dec 12
Was told last week that sales and marketing may not find out on Dec 12th of any layoffs or reorgs just that there will be some changes but are unknown at this point at least to lower level managers. Buckle up its going to be a long winter.
Fired, what can be done?
So i got fired. Not because i was bad at work, not because i had bad dealings with my customers, but because of my beliefs and stance. And, it seems from all the companies that i applied for, Cisco has a hand in companies blocking me from getting... — read more
Why would a director take PTO until Dec 12
Director took PTO when LR was announced and will return Dec 12. Any thoughts on what that means? Would seem that it would difficult to fight for team if gone on vaca.
Dec 12th … Lists of FTE’s or Teams?
A lot of comments about lists being finalized for the upcoming LR. Past LR’s have involved providing a list of FTE’s to meet a desired budget cut based on redundancy within teams. I believe this LR is different. It’s rebalancing the entire company to... — read more
LR mostly in North America
Hearing that it's almost all Americans.
GSSO, Thanks from PAN
Keeping with the theme of Thanksgiving, Thank you to the GSSO SLT for your decisions that have made it easier for customers to choose us. Here are our highlights of what we are thankful for. The Gold Rush created so much distrust with your sellers... — read more
Cisco Layoffs 2023
Do you think there will be Cisco layoffs? Any chatter, news or rumors?
Its sad
I realize that we all are have various degrees of concern during this time for layoff. Me included. I also am not a fan of the continuous layoff cycle in Cisco. Regardless of the reasons. That said. The people I work with here at Cisco have been... — read more
I would be ashamed
If I were the leadership, I would consider it my personal and professional defeat that most of the best employees left for competitors. Cisco long ago became a nursery of talents. How does our leadership feel about that? I wonder if they ever even... — read more
CXPM : A-Rat-Ho-e
Most useless and lethargic org within CX. No vision, No output, Pure power point creation and maintaining those YoY. No new capabilities. Hopefully Dec 12 will give them permanent rest as CXPM never ever talk and discuss industry level trend and... — read more