Cisco LR...a disaster of biblical proportions, Old Testament, real wrath-of-God type stuff. Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies. Rivers and seas boiling. Forty years of darkness. Earthquakes, volcanoes… The dead rising from the grave. Human... — read more
BU, Sales and AS. Seems more than 1100
According to threads BUs seems to be more impacted, mostly on DTG, UCS and possibly wireless. All talk about hundreds and we still miss Sales and AS and rest of the world....are we possible going for more than 1100 and that between layoffs... — read more
IVP Contracts being sunsetted at VKD and Eastlink
I heard that the road maps have been cut down and sales were told to wind things down. Anyone heard something similar?
Share price in 2 quarters time?
So the share price failed to make any recovery yesterday after an 8% crash following earnings and a further 0.5% drop the next day. My concern is where the share price will be in 2 or 3qtr time when consecutive declines in revenue become the norm... — read more
AS?
Has anyone heard of layoffs in Advance Services? Rumor is, AS is not profitable
FlashStack lead to layoffs
Partner with Pure Storage and your revenue and stock will plummet like theirs. For all those laid off, you should realize that sh-- show is to blame
So we live in suspense for 3 more months?
I don't know if this month's LR will take some pressure off the presumed LR coming in august. The most we can do is to be prepared and have your go-bag ready and your Plan-B in place.
Cisco's EOW Media Wrap
Here is about a dozen trending article's on Cisco right now... Have fun.... Forbes Cisco's Network Security, Wireless Products Drive Results by Trefis Team... — read more
Fired.
Yep. Let's dispense with the "restructuring", LR, Layoff, whatever the PC phrase of the day is --- and call it what it is. People have been FIRED. It is amazing that people think up these stupid terms thinking that somehow it changes what actually... — read more
What is it like to work in Cisco HR?
I am sure these people are celebrating this week on another "successful" culling. What must it be like to be in this group? What kind of mindset must they have? What is their basis of job-satisfaction? I suspect it is how much pain they can inflict... — read more
No parties, no celebrations!
A peer of mine, director level, made it to 68 years old at Cisco having worked there the final 10 years of his career. His boss, a newly hired dip$hit, eliminated his job. Obvious move seeing that my peer was an "old white guy." Anyway, I asked at... — read more
Ever been to a retirement party?
In my 10yrs at Cisco, I've never even heard of a retirement party. I think the chance for being LR'd or quitting (read: fed up) is too great. Actually, I have heard of one, when MPLS "retired" from their spin-ins. But outside of those four, nobody... — read more
1100 positions cancelled - which groups are affected most
Keeping all the rhetoric on the age bias, nepotism/ nationality and h1b aside, does anybody know which groups / teams are affected most? 1100 is not a small number. Some groups must have lost 100s.
innovation can not be purchased and remote exes/PMs NEED to be axed if want to stay remote
while looking at the forum and last 2 years of purchase of all these small companies - patents (xxx million into this and xxx million into that company), 90% purchase down to drain and money wasted, eg: I look at webex and then I was looking at zoom... — read more
I quit a couple of years ago when they shorted me on my bonus.
I found out that just about everyone I knew older than 43 received less than the target, and the younger people received target or above. They have been laying off Baby Boomers and Gen Xers for years, but kicked that into overdrive after I left. The... — read more
Does Cisco "owe" me anything? Only respect.
Stop drinking the cool-aid. There IS a company-level conspiracy. Cisco USED to let go of the bottom 5%. Normally, that's a good thing. Get rid of those that don't perform. Stinks when you're on a great team and even above average performance and... — read more
Good luck everybody, I am off to take a timeout and shall re-emerge refreshed elsewhere.
I understand people are bitter when the LR hits them and they are convinced it should be someone else. So OK I learned I will be impacted. I hold no animosity against Cisco or the executive team. They are trying to do right by employees with decent... — read more
I got hit with the last round of LR in 2016!
Best thing that happened to me. True about the management though. In a BU of 55 engineers, 9 got laid off, 8 of them Americans, and the other Americans in the team got relocated, leaving just 1 token American in the BU left out of about 44. HR... — read more
Bangalore SPVSS
L&T are in the frame to take most of Bangalore SPVSS people as red badges. If they do not go to red badge status AND move to Chennai..... they are doomed.
Cisco will never recover
The culture and environment that Chuck & Co have created is so toxic. This once great place to work will never recover. I was LR'd last August after 11 years at Cisco. I wanted out of that awful environment so I began my job search in April of last... — read more
University hires shown the door
Lot of people complaining about bias towards 50+, In DCG - 4 university grads (joined this spring) with an heap of student debt were shown the door. Its such a shame for any company to fire new young talent. They had no clue what had hit them. If you... — read more
CEO, ELT,Management and HR - whatte shame..
45 new topics being discussed on this forum within 24 hours, you all folks should be ashamed that Cisco employees/ex-employees trust this forum more than your in house process, tools , people to share their grievances, thoughts and feedback. Cisco... — read more
LR Affected - post info
If you were affected in May 2017's LR, please post some info: BU you were in Date you were notified Age, M/F if you don't mind So many other comments and people from previous LR's commenting it is hard to track and understand the current situation... — read more
Consider an EEOC action
If what is being said has some bases in fact about using "layoffs" as a pretense for replacing older workers with younger ones, then this appears to be a strong case for an age discrimination EEOC action. My words may not be more than just "venting"... — read more
LR was the best thing happened to me!
I got my package in the last round of LR and found a job within a month with a Cisco competitor. Almost a year later I gotta say the LR was the best thing that happened to me at Cisco. Get out of the sinking boat while you can!
Conrad Clemson's Strategy Video and AMA
Let's discuss the video he sent out and the kinds of questions you want to ask of him. I'll point him to this thread for the unfiltered version.
I feel like I've been offered a golden lifeboat
I got LR'd today from SP test. I'm pushing 50 but not there yet. I'm not sure of the scale yet. I've been with cisco for a long time and I've worked from home for the last several years which I consider a huge blessing. I don't know if it was my age... — read more
Spark's biggest problem is a lack of vision and leadership
Spark's biggest problem is a lack of vision and leadership. No one person or group will take responsibility for decisions and direction, inevitably leading to management by a number of essentially focus groups. Do you know how hard it is to develop a... — read more
You DO have a choice. You are NOT entitled to anything. That's why you get paid....
LRs are never fun for anyone. I cant fathom anyone enjoying this. I feel for all impacted. BUT it is a reality of large companies today. While I do feel the constant specter of worry about stability, I got over that for the most part 4 years out of... — read more
One offs across SP Biz Unit it sounds like
Don't know if it affected all groups, but given SP Biz is down not shocking there was some hurt here.
LR Targets for FY 2017 to be announced in August 2017
Chuck will announce new LR target in August 2017 for FY 2018. I guess most likely it will be 5% to 7% as usual.
Patterns
Got LRed at 56. When they walked us out the door I turned around and it looked like the demographics of people leaving the men's room at a Garth Brooks concert. Grey hair, male pattern baldness and distinctly white.
1000+ LR-ed
We saw over 1000 people laid off at our location over the years. The big ones have come this time of year and after the FY. Buttt Cisco will lay off any time of the year in small unannounced layoffs. They have made that very clear over the years. You... — read more
That speaks for itself
I left Cisco on my own after 13 years and returned to Oracle... After a 15 year hiatus. Did you know that 100% of all the managers and their management chain I had at oracle are still at Oracle 20 years later, and ZERO percent of my Cisco managers... — read more
After 14 years at Cisco I was Laid off at age 58
Cisco has ruthlessly laid of 50+ employees for years now. After 14 years at Cisco I was Laid off at age 58. fortunately the Cisco partners in the US are in dire need of the skills the laid off workers have . Actually got decent raise working with... — read more
Should i give second thought staying back in Cisco or quit immediately and join other.
Need a suggestion/advice: I Just survived 2 LRs first in August and second now (probably saved). My team in DCG BU was badly impacted in august and this time as well. I am not feeling lucky being saved rather more tensed now, i got one offer from one... — read more
Let's have Oracle Buy Cisco - Cisco is going the way of Sun Micro
I was LRed in August...and yes, I'm doing great. I'm one of the "lucky" over 50 peeps who can't find something permanent so I'm consulting for much more money. A lot of companies are doing very well out there and appreciate experienced people like... — read more