I know it’s only about pushing us out for free. So I diligently follow all the requirements. But I feel so stupid for doing it, because all of it is nonsense. It’s incredible how corporations manage to put us in such bizarre positions. Instead of letting me actually do my job and be productive and efficient, they are making me be efficient in following some stupid admin requirements and losing time and energy over it while feeling like a fool. I guess they’ll win in the end.
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its moving to four days soon for everybody.
Is it a rumor? Is it from reliable source?
When will they start 4 days in the office?
@8mha+1vkBnQfy
9 weeks out (out of the 13 weeks in a cycle) - That is not normal. May be maternity leave or Short Term Disability - which kicks in after certain days - do not know how many. They are special conditions
I believe the person said that for normal cases - Stick to 2 days a week religiously and you are going to be fine and do not have to scheme the system or break your head with complex math (I cannot !)
Even with multiple weeks off (eligible for 4 weeks typically < 2 weeks ) I have stayed above model without even thinking about it. Go to work every Tue and Fri - done and dusted. (I avoid Mon - do not want to lose the Federal Holiday TO )
Even with sick leave- it has not impacted me and the dashboard is really helpful - if one week I have to go 3 days. And I run above model but with in 110% - For the entire last year I did not have to do a single 3 day week. And I did use my full quota of vacations and work-from-where
its moving to four days soon for everybody....its still big brother micromanaging SVP and above.....let managers be managers if they want the staff to be in 3 days for morale let them make the call.
To the person who said agile flex do 2 days a week and you are fine.
That is not always the case. The more you are out the higher percentage of days you need to be in. As 9 absence days reduces the total by only 2.
If you are our 9 weeks (45 days) they reduce your target by 10. So out of 20 workable days you have to be in the office 10 days which I'd 50%. 2 days a week wont cut it. If you didn't work a single day they would still expect you to clock office days. For agile flex it's a poorly thought out system. Typical bny
So the only working that ever happens here is solely done in office?
Bwaaaa haaaa hahaha ha
But ok, let's assume that some people are abusing things at home. TAKE ACTION AGAINST THEM!
Consider this, at your next review:
"Great work this year! But Sally and Ben did poorly, so the whole team is taking a pay cut."
Fair enough?
when no aspect of "doing your job" requires one to trundle into an office, there is no need to inflict additional costs and time sinks to your day.
If it's that important, the bank can easily pay a stipend to equalize some of the burden.
Otherwise, the answer is no.
I kinda agree @1bnd say everyone had there perspective in office is more productive then in house….but don’t fire them on previous mistakes give them a chance if they still commit the fraud then those are bad apples.
My favorite is when I come in and I'm the only one from my department. To be fair, that has only happened about 40 times.
@30jp yeah true. But they could have just warn first and dump them later.
Simple solution - get rid of the buildings!
We even have an Executive Committee member and some of their direct reports who are based at home. At that level, they should be told move to Manhattan or face a layoff. How is that even remotely fair?
To the shill who insists it’s no big deal, it was the norm just a few years ago. So was the fax, paper trade orders, stacks of printed reports, d-mb terminals, and outcry pit traders. It’s called “progress”. Not to mention the two-tier system where they keep turning the sc--ws on the hybrid minions, while dozens (hundreds?) of senior managers enforcing RTO have sweet WFH deals themselves.
Anyone who is criticizing people upset about forced RTO, or blaming those who “abused” work from home- that is exactly what the corporate higher-ups want you to do. They make up the excuse that it’s due to those who didn’t do what they should at home, instead of handling those people directly. Many teams worked perfectly remotely. They are using this (and increasing days) as a way to get rid of people— but if you want to pretend it’s reasonable, go ahead. Your turn will come, especially if you don’t happen to be in whatever they decide is the location of the moment.
Look at all these sour jer-ker-oos here like 1bnd, 1gpb, 1mej taking people to task to make themselves feel important and valid…. RTO is just a scam. A ruse. A shell game. It exists to create victims of workers in non desirable locations. This company is all about cuts, going cheap and giving the bare minimum to both employees and clients. RTO is simply a trap set waiting for people to mess up even minutely. Most sane, people valued and desirable organizations in 2024, recognize that people need flex time and if there is more needed for good reasons, then its up to the managers. And it empowers both the local manager and employee. Many of us worked from home long before COVID and things went very well. No one was trying to get over on the place. Of course there are bad apples but faith was held in the management of those apples to deal with them. This is now a grotesque juvenile show just to eliminate people. Like New York State did to that poor youtube squirrel the other day. This is not a good place to work. And judging from some of these acidic commenters here, BNY now rejoices in hiring the mean, fetid bottom of the barrel.
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1gpb+1vkBnQfy - absolutely agree and this is why they keep closing locations too. Who wants to pay for a building and electricity when you have most of the staff not going in and being resistant along with mgmt helping the issue by not enforcing it. How fair is it to those in the locations actually going in? Many can work from home but look at your teams cause you all know there are several that have proven they cannot.
I'm not going anywhere, friendo.
@iumg
Please make sure the door does not hit you on your way out. Good riddance
Not only do I count my travel time in my workday, I purposely do my best to slow productivity every day I can. I may be forced in but it's not going to be a winning strategy for leadership. And every time I do it, I'll chuckle while I imagine you seething impotently over your keyboard. LOL!
Where is the failure of leadership to deal with us as individuals? Super childish and extremely lazy to blanket punish everyone for the actions of a few. Try a little harder next time. We've left elementary school decades ago.
I never understood the RTO whining.
We were working 5 days a week. COVID strikes and we get the bonus of reduced commute to work. Whether you are AGILE or AGILE FLEX it boils down to 3 days or 2 days respectively.
Why does one has to calculate or even worry about the dashboards ?
If you are AGILE keep up the 3 days a week schedule M-W-F (example) or if you are AGILE FLEX - M-F (example again) and you make the mark. Actually you will be ABOVE MODEL all the time. Your time off holidays everything will never get you in trouble (may be in very rare cases when someone has to take 3 weeks off in a month - even then AGILE makes you come 5 * .60 = 3 days and AGILE FLEX no impact at all )
It is NOT STUPID but for folks who really do not want commute and may be get their lawns well manicured during office hours. If you are truthful (and not claiming to be so) then you will have no issues with RTO or you do not even have to think about it
AGILE - Instead of 5 days at work you are saving 2 days at HOME (less commute)
AGILE FLEX - Instead of 5 days at work you are saving - 3 days at HOME
If RTO makes you feel like a fool then you are ...
You can be productive if you want to be productive at Office also. Please do not claim that you are adding your commute time to the work hours (eight hrs + commute hrs) and providing to the company. That is a LIE.
Please down vote for stating the TRUTH