Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

When you stop rewarding results and start emphasizing attendance, don’t be surprised when people optimize for attendance instead of results.

One of the biggest mistakes this “leadership” made was creating a 5x RTO policy for everyone because of the actions of a few.

The understanding has always been that the push toward 5x RTO was driven, at least in part, by concerns about a small number of people who weren’t meeting expectations under the 3x8 policy. Whether that’s true or not, those people are largely gone. The ones paying the price today are everyone who complied and remained.

Instead of holding poor performers accountable, leadership rolled out a blanket policy that treats everyone like they need to be monitored. High performers, average performers, and low performers all get the same treatment. That’s completely a$$ backwards.

Good people managers manage performance. They don’t replace performance management with one size fits all policies that punish the majority because of the minority.

So, the unintended consequence is the new 8 & skate culture.

People who used to go above and beyond now focus on just checking the box. Badge in, sit for eight hours, badge out. Time that once went into extra work is now spent commuting. Discretionary effort has simply been replaced by compliance.

The irony is that the policy intended to improve accountability has actually reduced it. When you stop rewarding results and start emphasizing attendance, don’t be surprised when people optimize for attendance instead of outcomes.

If someone isn’t doing their job, you deal with that person. You don’t build a policy that discourages the very people you should be trying hardest to keep.


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Post ID: @OP+1kxdwtxf5

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Working for a living

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Post ID: @ne+1kxdwtxf5

Wow, Are you all still crying that you have to physically show up to work??

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Post ID: @k7+1kxdwtxf5

@jb sad to break it to you but its the Gen Z & Millennials who spend the most time in bed or engaged in 'do nothing' entertainment.

We get it. You're a lazy racist/ageist who is angry that you have to go to work. That's fine, but at least get your facts straight. Maybe you'll feel better after nap time?

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Post ID: @jz+1kxdwtxf5

@fe 2030 is a long way off. You're expecting way too much. RTO will not be driven by the whining masses, it will be driven by the 40 and 50-something ruling class. Also known as the 3rd and 4th line managers. When they get sufficiently tired of smelling you, RTO will return. Right now we all have to follow the rules but this is all just a means to an end.

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Post ID: @fx+1kxdwtxf5

I never missed a day in the office. Got great reviews. Got fired because I was legacy BLS. So grab your ankles your RTO is coming from your PFFs in HR.

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Post ID: @fv+1kxdwtxf5

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Anti-social wu-s generation doesn’t want to physically go to work and deal with people in real life because it makes them nervous, grow up!

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Post ID: @fp+1kxdwtxf5

@fe by 2030 this company won’t exist anymore. Big Stink has nose dived it into the ground. Take a look at the stock price and read about the news of starlink stealing mobile market share and putting companies like us out of business.

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Post ID: @fg+1kxdwtxf5

@fe nah. I’ll stick around while doing the bare minimum and collecting full paychecks until they decide to pay me to leave. And if it makes you cranky in the meantime that’s just an added benefit. Enjoy picking up the slack you hardo bootlicker!

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Post ID: @ff+1kxdwtxf5

By 2030 all the current RTO whiners should be either gone or reconditioned to be obedient employees all while reporting to the great Emperor Stankey’s Plano Peasant Palace.

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Post ID: @fe+1kxdwtxf5

@eb

Keep telling yourself that, simpleton. Just make sure them boots remain nice and clean. You are unfit for anything else.

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Post ID: @em+1kxdwtxf5

If you people had any sense, you'd realize how easy it is to stack while working at AT&T - especially in this RTO environment. I do it right under their noses and no one notices. I have a good place to make calls and drink coffee. I don't pay rent and stank provides me with everything I need. The 'commute' as ya'll call it is code for daily stand-up with J2. During that call I figure out whether or not I'm going to need to cut out later in the day for an urgent appointment for a documented condition resulting from a work injury. I figured out pretty early that a robust PT schedule would help with J2. J1 would simply take care of itself so long as I show up.

So, while you may see me on the commute, I won't see you. I'll be too busy with my job to care about you stroker slobs.

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Post ID: @ef+1kxdwtxf5

@eb Nah, I am taking a CGDO and heading to the lake. You won't see me on the commute.

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Post ID: @ec+1kxdwtxf5

Guess what? You all have to physically show up to work today! Have a great going to work day!

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Post ID: @eb+1kxdwtxf5

I will throw a wrench into their plans. I will RTO. Take that.

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Post ID: @cx+1kxdwtxf5

The policy was never meant to improve accountability. It’s always been about reducing headcount.

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Post ID: @cc+1kxdwtxf5

@bd

Says the poster whining about the whining...be the change you want to see in the world!

Post a slew of high-quality layoff-related content and drown out all the RTO talk.

Eagerly awaiting your first salvo!

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Post ID: @c2+1kxdwtxf5

I'm going to keep complaining until Stankey sees my way. Let's see who will outlast the other.

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Post ID: @bs+1kxdwtxf5

What am I doing at home? Golfing, Tennis, Costco. While the rest of you pretend to work in the office.

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Post ID: @bp+1kxdwtxf5

More whining about RTO. Show up or don’t, you won’t be missed. We can open a req and replace you quickly. It isn’t bootlicking, it is being tired of seeing posts on this board not about layoffs.

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Post ID: @bd+1kxdwtxf5

@b6 more work than you’re doing in the office

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Post ID: @b9+1kxdwtxf5

What are you really doing at home?

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Post ID: @b6+1kxdwtxf5

@at yes, like you and your incessant bootlicking. The reality is it will get you nowhere. The other reality is that WFH and Hybrid are the INDUSTRY STANDARD. The sooner you accept these facts the better off you will be. #fact

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Post ID: @az+1kxdwtxf5

Who’s disgruntled by this enough to post 4 times in a row? Must be Stankeys daughter coming to his defense again. LOL!

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Post ID: @ay+1kxdwtxf5

Look everybody, it’s national “Have to go to your work” day’ Enjoy!

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Post ID: @ax+1kxdwtxf5

This board is going to start to have a lessons on “How to come to work”.

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Post ID: @aw+1kxdwtxf5

You all are just going to have to learn that you have to come to work!

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Post ID: @av+1kxdwtxf5

Some people are not able to accept reality.

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Post ID: @at+1kxdwtxf5

@ak that was HILARIOUS, good one!! Got anything original? Whelp, back to the truck and harness up.

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Post ID: @an+1kxdwtxf5

RTO has nothing to do with the actions of a few. RTO and relo are inexpensive tools to drive attrition. That's it. If you really think that a guy who rings home $50M a year cares about where you sit? Do you think your AVP wants to see you in the elevators every day? Even your director sees you as a means to an end. Let's say that my org says that an L3 director has to have 12 direct reports. You are a title on an org chart. The d-mber you are, the better. You are the sandbags that we drop when the surplus fairy comes calling. But, really, good or bad doesn't really matter. You can be a great worker who happens to be on the wrong project. And, let's not forget, any L2 IC is replaceable with a vendor.

But, please go on with how much you hate RTO or how little work you do. If you hate it, but you stay, you are exactly what we want. See, you'll stay until you find a new job. No severance! If you 8 and skate, congrats, you are exactly what we want. You are body on the org chart that allows your equally worthless L3 to keep her title and salary. You are a sandbag that can be cut loose with no impact on team performance. You are a bargaining chip that one director can use when another director needs another body in their org.

If you still don't get it, you are a tool to allow your manager to keep her/his role. If you are good looking and smart, or at least sound smart, you are an asset that I want around me. If you are overweight, have poor hygiene habits, dress poorly, or overtly politically or socially charged, you are a liability. Do you really think I want to see/hear/smell you day in and day out? But, letting you stay at home makes you feel like you are in the cart rather than simply pulling it. We can't have that. You need to be in the office and online so that your manager's metrics stay in the black where they belong.

Be happy. Once we have reliable attendance metrics, we can focus on productivity metrics. Anyone who remembers having to track your hours to a ticket or project will know what I am talking about. If you don't know, it means that you have to demonstrate 5-6 hours per day to a specific project and task. That was fun seeing 300 hours a week assigned to tasks that were estimated at 40 hours! Or, even better, 40 hours a week to administrative time. Toilet lurkers, beware!

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Post ID: @am+1kxdwtxf5

@ac spot on!!

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Post ID: @ae+1kxdwtxf5

OP the one thing you are forgetting is what the real goal of 5xRTO is. The real goal was not stated publicly but is easy to conclude. Stank wants as many people off payroll without have to give them severance. 5XRTO is the impetus for that result.

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Post ID: @ac+1kxdwtxf5

True. Not even complaining, just statement of fact. Let’s see how the union trolls and bootlickers try to spin this one.

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Post ID: @a4+1kxdwtxf5

@a2 both are true, but either way you will simply get a box checked now rather than results since that’s what’s being measured and focused on. Nobody cares about anything else anymore.

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Post ID: @a3+1kxdwtxf5

No...the push for RTO is from investment firms that own commercial real estate. Also driven by narcissistic "leadership" that needs people su-king their as--s constantly to feel important.

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Post ID: @a2+1kxdwtxf5

Yup, don’t enforce petty policies unless you’re prepared for petty compliance. That’s why it’s 8 & skate it can wait now.

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