Cannot be lah! You joined at CL23, worked for 5 years, and now still it CL23?
POFMA!
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Below average performer here. Still at 23 CL at 30 after working for 5 years.
SG is known for having a lower CL than global, just that it was not communicated to us
It just means your boss is not aggressive in giving you promotions. It’s possible to hit CL25 by 30.
May want to do up your resume. Your boss may not be treating you as well as he / she claims.
CL25 after working for 6 years? I’ve ranked top third/outstanding every year and I’m no where near that after 6 years haha..
Salary range used to be a function of:
(1) CL Level
(2) YEE (= Years of service + 18)
(3) RGP (= your rank group percentile)
However, since the Ranking system was replaced by Performance Appraisal, the concept of RGP is irrelevant now - and HR has not updated management on how the new salary planning system (and also promotions) will be revised.
Not that it matters now, since salary increments had been frozen since Jan 2020 and the urgency for managers to do salary planning and promotions (usually in early-4Q of each year) has taken a back seat, for now.
what is CL25 salary range at 30-31?
Shoot to attain a DH position by 36.
It has and can be done.
4Hkwl+16zEvLP3
Forget about salary.
If you are male and have served NSF, after working 6 years, you ought to be at least a CL25, by age 30/31.
Bring that forward by 2 years, if you are female.
Anything less and you are under-performing.
No longer valid. Going forward, u will see sh---y increments. Want higher pay and better prospects, join shopee instead.
thank you for response. we should all try to benchmark here
6000-7000
For total 6 years working exp, how much should my gross monthly salary be here?
No more peace out. More like pieces and pieces of our dignity out, with each day goes by and HR doing their best to drill home the point that we are overpaid and underworked - and that we deserved to get our AWS cut and pay frozen. Sucks to be a junior employee without enjoying the good times company had to offer in the past.
Is it still cool to use peace out to end an convo? Lol, your age is showing boomer
Should have moved out long ago. If you haven’t, you are as d-mb as rocks, or too highly paid to be hired outside. It definitely can’t be you believe in the We are ExxonMobil bu-----t, can you?
It is time to move out from EM unless you want to stay and work like a slave
voices here help us employees understand the reality, not for management/HR. Sometimes they do peep, esp the stinky ones and they know it themselves. when asked, they act like no idea.
Don’t complain about the ang mohs here - there’s always been cases where you wonder how did this person get this expat posting. It’s not the first time, nor will it be the last time.
How about you stop whining, stop kpkb in a forum where no one gives a sh-t, certainly not management nor HR, and start working on your resume writing and interviewing skills, so that you can get the he-l out of here?
You want to stay in EM, then suck it up and start brown nosing your boss boss boss, so that you can be the undeserving jerk that does some big job.
Peace out
@4Grhx+16zEvLP3 It’s an art
The SSM Mngr is the ONLY DM that has been through/under three(3) different RMs here!
All the other DMs around him have been flipped over the last 10 years, or thereabouts.
SSM manager still an expat after all the workforce study, he must be efficient with what he is doing all these years.
New Technical DM returned to SG last year and been doing commercial job. Maybe top dogs knew about altona in advance and moved people out but more likely she was moved back as art of opex cuts.
Aussie in SG went the other one way to take on role in Altona
The past is in your head. The future is in your hand.
Don't be afraid of change. You may lose something good but you may gain something better.
Hey I heard that the new Technical DM got ejected from Altona Ref, after their closure was announced recently.
But was “protected” from the layoff there, because she is an SGean. A return-to-sender case hehe!
Better day?
Yah lah, maybe perhaps - now that the Refinery will have a new Operations DM and a new Technical DM.
Tomorrow will be a better day! 💪💪
We really deserve better leadership in Singapore than the sh-t we had been served so far after GSK had left.
Algae again? wonder how long has this algae topic been around. Must be NOT economically feasible lar.
Singapore as a country is saving our site refinery before it retires for good, slowing down the EV transition. Can't believe that f&l always see EV as a threat, so backward looking. What if transition is at full speed, just like other developed countries? Guess the site be gone in just a couple of years.
Hello, my name is Algae
Yes get out of retail.. convert all manufacturing sites, retail stations and even hbf office space to algae farm :)
China’s new Electric Plasma Jet Engine:
https://youtu.be/zreTrshsg-c
Air (and space) travel will also go fully electric, eventually!
If Singapore attains it’s target of >80% EV penetration by 2050, what will happen to the fuel Retail business here?
Now, expand that same question to the developed world / OECD countries, or even China.
If the IOCs cannot continue to peddle retail gasoline and diesel, then they must also convert all their gas stations to electricity charging bays right?
“If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em !!!”
Or perhaps … give up the leases completely and get out of the Retail business for both fuels and lubricants?
CRISP wants to turn Resid to Lubes (for use in internal combustion engines).
But the world is moving to EVs, where traditional automative lubricants (those that you pour into current engine blocks) will become irrelevant and obsolete.
So how?
a taboo to mention crisp to mgmt, it is the slowest turtle in the industry, no where to hide faces.
The new board member is from Neste, stay 10yrs in Singapore to set up biofuel business which now expanding with $1.5billon euro project. Maybe em sg site will be converted to biofuel plant. Those many left to neste looks good move. forget about crisp, not sure even survive through, the longer the wait the less chance it become real...
The recent loss of EM Corp’s 3 board seats to a group of minority (but influential, clean energy) shareholders is akin to having “barbarians at the gates).
Could this spell the downward slide of DW’s control as Chairman and CEO?
What if there were to be a vote of no confidence among the majority shareholders?
i was just thinking.
with the grand plan of outsourcing most of the technical and engineering support to KLTC, is this action considered "legal"?
I mean, the government gives tax rebates and benefits for MNCs to set up base here, and the basic expectation is that these MNCs will provide jobs for the locals.
Now EM is cutting locals and boosting up KLTC strength to operate SG site.
I don't know. It doesn't look right and it spells bad for us locals.
whatever. I'm already out of EM and I think I've gained a couple years of lifespan back. :)
When an industry or company becomes a focal point of financial institutions’ and Governments’ for ESG, you know that the end is near …. If you are smart , cut loss and change runway… the longer you stay it only does more damage to your career especially for the younger folks. End of the day , this industry is liken to be an old folks’ home. Only older folks who don’t mind working for a job and not career will be staying behind. They will walk into the sunset together with the company. Perish into the near future with their remains as fossil ….
Sayonara…..Adios