Peers jumped out and easily match senior pay. Decade in the deep well, cheated, not appreciated, over commited and stuck. Left overs cleaning up the left overs on dirty tables, not in PDS. Full blast in jobs outsourcing to low cost countries, what?! Unmotivated and expired faces left, not a fulfilling career.
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@4Dpnr+16zEvLP3
Completely agree about the cowardice leadership from SG management...just empty talk about good times possibly coming back but no action or tangibles.....yet demand real results from the workforce.
The only way to tell them to shove it is to find another job ...which I did this week!
No more PDS or ranking cr-p ...or listening to the fake bravery from EM management which makes me sick in the stomach.
SG EM is going to be a shell in the next 10 years....for those who still believe in EM....you need to migrate to India, Malaysia, or Thailand...
SG Folks, haven't you learnt anything since 2020....SG Mgt has shown their true colours....displaying nothing but cowardice and lying through their teeth....those DHs and above drawing $20K+ monthly feel minimal impact to salary or promotion freezes therefore they are just shoving more work down the line and putting up a brave front to hide their cowardice.
When times are good...it is easy to show bravado and confident words...but when times are sh--e...you see the true colours.
I really feel sorry for the lower level workforce (SLS and below)...getting tons of work without reprieve because of coward leadership yet not rewarded in any way. But well....you have a choice to leave, and if you cant....who else can you blame....
Show the world we are in this together! ROFL.
Shame.
This year mgmt were bitten sooo hard by these smart ones leaving, causing more work for us to tank, high priority monitoring for some functions, trying hard to tell Hous that we are overly stretched and heavily bleeding, but try to "act" as if it is a small wound.
Let's acknowledge an internal losing xombie war, best soldiers planned well and left for green, xombie virus outbreak started by the leaders spreading at crazy speed internally, remaining soldiers breaking down, majority no trust in the leaders, no pride serving the ugly flag, why?? Because selfish weak leaders trying hard to hide the rootcause of the outbreak, so leftovers can continue to offer as feedings to them. No more trust, no more wins.
and then your div manager will tell you that they will try to bring you back to the salary curve each year. You will not be on the curve but will be close to the curve in the next few incremental cycle.
Wonder what TMTS change will bring out for the company, just like value chain reorg, BMR, EMRE reorg.. change name, the real problem is lack of clear direction where and how business should continue to win in the market place, and self created barriers internally to get things done. With many big investment went sour, cash gen is poor, how do you know these TMTS HW3 work out, why such bad decision happen many times ? Such big strategic moves at wrong time wrong bet how such mini step change turn the company around to make future big decision right.. but one thing for sure it keep ppl and managers busy.. cutting those coffee machines snack does not help at all, it hurt on personal touch, promote negative energy, such decision by those so called managers have not been thought properly what is leadership. Bad system, culture and behavior collectively cause such bad situations today. On another front managers said we are reactive but hey ask yourself how much do you know about the area in detail you manage, do you need fishing lot of information before you make a comment just to say something..
4-5 years in a job role?
Tan ku ku lah!
I know for a fact that my manager became a DH, when he was 36/37 years old. But that was way back then, in better times.
But in today’s perspective:
If you count the requisite years on the job for new entries now, joining at 25 years old (22-23 for females), you’d probably get to be an SH by the time you reach 35 years, or later. And that is, only if you are constantly in Outstanding category, or better, in each PA.
Otherwise, forget it lah. You can tan ku ku.
From my standpoint as a new EM employee of less than 3 years, I have lost all my confidence in the company, it’s HR system and the global Covid19 situation had only made it worse.
Bought a BTO 2 years back, but it’s completion date has now been pushed back to 2024 (or later).
No salary increment for now, and at least for the next few years.
Our 3-month AWS looks like it’s going, going, gone.
Don’t expect to be promoted any time soon, as we were all told that we will remain in our job roles for at least 4-5 years from here on, to build up our competency levels.
Am faced with the possibility of NSI / PIP, after each year’s PA exercise - a very miserable, recurring feeling that we all need to deal with.
Car COE prices are shooting up the roof, and will likely need to take a larger loan, without deep pockets. Taking public transport everyday (once we are out of default-WFH) will just heighten the risk of infection.
Inflationary impact on food and consumables is rising fast globally and will hit Singapore especially hard, since we are import-dependent for almost everything we need.
Haiz!!!!
@4Daoh+16zEvLP3 You made me laugh so hard. Competent? Oh please.
No impact!
Many more have tendered their resignations as of the end of this week.
Management frantically reassigning bodies to backfill key positions - even resorting to internal transfers within the Division, just to remain operational.
Stretched thin.
But inevitably, the impact on overall competency level is taking its toll.
It’s all so bleak out there.
EM Corp just lost 3 board seats - ousted by its shareholders.
Is that considered a “layoff” from the top?
You guys that were laid off are clueless. That’s why you were asked to leave or resigned. Stop being jealous :)
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you got it wrong...bad karma will fall on those who is telling people to stay...people here are telling the brutal reality.
Also..the fact you come to this site means you know official comm is sh--e.
Looks like the laid offs are still here trying to trigger others to leave. Bad karma will come.
Once a colony, always a colony. Without colonial mindset to worship the ang mohs, how to do well here, especially during difficult times.
SG workforce is such a resilent bunch...delivering high performance despites getting whipped badly..admirable!
At the same breath...the remaining workforce is so pathetic and docile, settling for such work environment. Oh well..thats what years of generalist skillset gets you...LOL.
your team vs her team, not my team
@4Cetz+16zEvLP3 One team!
I can confirm attrition is not a problem. Business running as per normal, results continue to be delivered, my co-workers still taking night calls 5 times a week. Everyone is giving their best, despite impending AWS cut and salary freezes. GC is right - Singapore is standing in solidarity with the Dallas. Otherwise, we might lose all the jobs to cheaper, hungerier locations like Bangalore. No one wants that right?
You forget to add that we paid 35mil to LOSE.
Sounds like DW’s Midas touch in play again!
Actually yes, quick back of the envelope calculations would indicate that cutting 1.5 months of AWS would save the company around S$50M per annum, or about US$35M. Just nice to cover the costs of the proxy fight.
Priorities eh!
Check SLSs calendar to know when the ranking meeting is. Seems a lot quicker than previous years.
@4Bvpl+16zEvLP3 - nobody cares about backfiring of forced ranking because it’s the best system there exists! It has served Darren and senior management well, so rest of you employees can’t complain!
PIP is coming soon. Better find for jobs before falling into the sh-t~
https://www.todayonline.com/commentary/why-ranking-employees-performance-backfires
Force ranking backfires
No coffee machine, lousy insurance, no increment, work overloaded, PDS too bias, poorer so cut back expenses, let's eat hawker and support more locals. Duno why some can eat more michelin meals, free golf mship, scoring PDS by making locals poorer... goes on and on and on.
remember all job losses in Singapore are good losses. Helps with the PDS of SG management. Other than GC, there’s no other Singaporeans at the country LT body. No skin in the game for expats, so you are all on your own. Compete to win folks, and don’t complain.
EM dgaf about inflation. Company is imploding and you still here latching on like it's your only lifeline. Others whining how can they cut this how can they cut that, isn't it obvious? Because they can and there's nothing you can do about it. EM is in crisis mode. Focus is to stay afloat in the near term. Who cares about fluffs like staff retention and morale?
Apparently Singaporeans are overpaid, especially with 3 months AWS. HR from other countries are reviewing our pay and has already looked at it with biased lens. Coupled with no pushback from LCM and attrition remains lower than planned, so of course no pay raise. Be glad you have a job and be very more glad if there’s no significant pay cut.
The inflation is coming so how can be no pay rise next year..
@4Ahzg+16zEvLP3 authorities have learned their lessons, unlikely to throw fresh incentives and tax payers money to attract new plant investments. No more growth for site, just operate at LOWEST costs possible, safely lar.
Let’s chiong for LNG sales. Chem and F&L sales already in China and India, with many given opportunities to go Houston and come to Singapore. So practice your thumb sucking skills. Might need it more than ever, especially when GC is not going to be advocating for Singaporeans. Good luck! I’m so glad I’m not dealing with this cr-p now.
Allow me to make an educated guess on SG EM future..at most 10~15 yrs from now...
- All support functions moved to India, BKK or 3rd Party providers
- (Chemical/Lubes/LNG) sales/ops moved to China / India
- Engineering support including process engineers for base plant move to KLTC / India
- Site Projects moved to BTC
- No new capital proj to improve existing plant...e.g Crisp aint coming back.
What left is a skeleton workforce of ops and maintenance to keep the plants running...no career progression, minimal opportunity.
Who is brave or shld i say d-mb enough to stay and find out?
Things are coming back! There’s more expats heading our way in Singapore. Is this an indicator of AWS won’t be cut, or AWS will still be cut to create budgets for more expats? Any insights?
@4Aznn+16zEvLP3
You POFMA lah!
PIL is not an option for 2021 PA. Only PIP.
TMTS package? That is not an option for anyone to choose.
You will be asked to go, when the time comes (the organisation restructure and HC reduction plan is already laid out between now, till 2023).
So if your position / group is already earmarked as redundant (or in excess) it is just a matter of when.
SG Finance just expat some manager to Thailand. Seems like that's the way going forward.
July/Aug 1:1 sharing after the ranking session
Options available are:
- PIL
- TMTS package
- Resignation
4: choose to stay but not increment and bonus
Not forgetting that many of our base benefits were also cut in end-2020 / 1Q21:
- The renegotiated AIA / IHP coverage T&Cs and payout is worse now for the employee, with net higher OOP
- No more interest-free vehicle loan (CL 26-29)
- No more country club membership fee assist
Can imagine PDS for GC will look so good, thanks to everyone. Cut espresso machine, cut costs, cut headcount, improve Sg cash flow, use savings for secret projects to deceive public that we are reducing emission. Next year their PDS looks even better, thanks to everyone again.