Thread regarding Bank of New York Mellon Corp. layoffs

I’ve noticed that anti-vaxers seem to be equally distributed on the outward fringes of both the far left and the far right. It seems to be more of an extremist thing than a political thing.

For those that believe that Vaccine deaths are right wing conspiracy theories, go to the VAERS database and search for yourself. Thousands have died from the jab and the number grows daily.

Sadly you just can't google vaccine deaths because the results are front loaded with propaganda.

I love how someone is a pro vaxer for stating actual numbers. I never said I even approved of it or not, just said people for it need to recognize the number is slightly skewed and people against it need to realize same thing. The disturbing part is someone not taking everything into account. I even used your data, I didn’t go and make up my own. I couldn’t find your number but held it as truth. I honestly don’t care if someone gets the jab or not, it’s your choice, but just present all numbers, not just things that support your own agenda solely. You may actually get more people on your side if you showed full transparency instead.

@5teo+1cqux3OO

Thalidomide was an early experimental anti-cancer dr-g which was deployed early for otherwise untreatable cancers. It turned out to cause horrible side effects and deformations on unborn children. It was a tragedy, but was nothing like a routine vaccine.

The Pfizer vaccine, now approved, was not at all highly experimental as vaccines have been in use since Jonas Salk solved Polio in the 1950s. It would be worth studying your claim of 9,000 dead from Pfizer, which clearly never happened. I’d be willing to bet that 9,000,000 of the Pfizer vaxed population had their lives saved due to it.

I see we still have some Pro-Vaxers utilizing multiple devices or incognito browsers to manipulate the reactions. Seriously, your obsession is both comical and disturbing.

Get a telemedicine appointment for your mental illness.

Just for context if we really want to throw numbers out there, in the US 364 million doses given and your 9000 deaths equates to .0025% death rate. Most recent data i could find says there have been 38.2 million covid confirms and 631,000 deaths for a 1.65% death rate. Now not all covid deaths were solely covid since they had underlying conditions etc so that needs to be taken into account. Also the same thing with the vax deaths, regardless if the vax ki---d them or didn't, if they died after the shot no matter what it is reported so both death numbers are not completely accurate. Just throwing figures for consumption, as stated in prior post, people still need to choose whats best for them. But lets not throw numbers out there for both sides without stating that neither number is entirely accurate since there is underlying factors on both sides.

can the layoff.com admins please remove this ridiculous post?

The fda had approved thalidomide… just saying.. make a decision that is right for you. 9000 died post Pfizer jab.. normally a trial would have stopped after a few deaths but whatever.

This is a tricky situation for all viewpoints. Unfortunately right or wrong the majority of the country believes this is the right course of action to a path forward. And now that the fda gave full approval for Pfizer, my guess is that you are going to see a majority of places mandate it. I suppose it no different than how we had to prove we had our shots to go to college. Now it’s just carrying forward to post college life.

@ aws. Ah, BS. It just doesn't seem right TO YOU, that's all. If you were 5 years old again your parents could choose to not have you vaccinated against measles, mumps, and a bunch of other diseases and you wouldn't be allowed to attend school. Their choice, and you get homeschooled then.

If you don't want the covid vaccine now working at a company where it's mandated...again, your choice. Cya later and good luck somewhere else. Your CHOICE is not being taken away from you...so don't b-tch when you're told you can free to find another job.

@awp - to your second point about how we went to Bny for a job not the other way around ... I would say this - yes, I went to Bny for a job. At that time there was no vaccine mandate. No one signed up for that. Had that been on the table from the beginning I’m sure a lot of potential employees would’ve said thanks but no thanks and would go on to apply elsewhere. I understand things can change (policies and procedures) however, mandating that you inject something into your body doesn’t seem right. Anyone not willing to take the vaccine is now being discriminated against (can’t go into restaurants, gyms etc). Seems like we are going backwards in time. I guess the saying is right - history repeats itself

Nonsense

Get your shots

Lock up the children and mask them up for a year at the expense of 90 year olds 🙄

The immune compromised should just be careful and let the rest of us live our life. That is exactly what happens in any other situation other than Covid mania

I'm vaccinated but I can see how people would be concerned about it. It's amazing how "science" is sweeping all the issues with it under the rug. I had no problem with the vaccine but my 80 year old mother is afraid of getting a booster because she felt so bad after the first two shots. And there is all kinds of evidence that shows the spike protein causes issue on it's own and that it doesn't always stay in the arm like it's supposed to.

Yea! Let’s put our grandparents and the immunocompromised at risk (not to mention prolonging this pandemic) because Freedom!!! Honestly it should be used as an IQ test, anyone d-mb enough to not get vaccinated should be “laid off”

Pfizer received FDA approval...let's hear the next excuse about still not getting the vaccine from the unvaxxed

It’s almost a guarantee that BNY will lost their worst employees if people quit over this lol sounds like a real win

There is no evidence that the vaccinated spreads Covid less than the unvax’d - quit spreading misinformation

@OP - what part of "public health emergency" do you not understand? You say that:

"Your decision to not get vaccinated for covid DOES NOT prevent someone else from being able to return to a normal life!!!"

Sorry, but that's not how highly communicable diseases work. If you are not vaxxed and come into the office carrying the virus, and spread it around to all of your un-vaxxed cohorts, some of them will likely get sick and DIE. All because you were a big baby and didn't want someone telling you what to do. Honestly, the hubris here among the "guvment cain't tell me what to do" crowd is simply mind boggling. Good thing you weren't alive when polio was raging through the country.

The courts will always side with the corporations

Absolutely right. I’m not saying don’t get the vaccine. I’m saying that if you want to get the vaccine, you are getting it because YOU want it. You are getting it because it’s your choice to get it. Don’t get the Covid vaccine just because bnym wants to threaten you with your job security if you don’t get it. I’m not against the vaccine, I’m against the company mandate that says “you must get it or you can’t work here.”

Get the vaccine or gtfo. Simple

COVID = 99% survival rate. Why subject to some unknown /known risk?

Why should a third party force you to take that risk? It's your health and it's really a one strike (jab) and you are out. Just cuz those of you who took the vaccine are still moving soundly - check your mental state. What will happen to you a year from now - physically, mentally, etc? Every pain, itch, numbness that you feel will make you wonder if they are caused by the vaccine. If it is, you will need to pray because you will not be able to sue.

By the way,
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/us-investigates-moderna-jab-after-data-show-25x-higher-risk-heart-inflammation

Apparently it’s communist China on this message board.
Deletions are chosen with an obvious agenda.

Bye Zuckerberg

Those aren't transmitted, you're comparing apples to oranges. Altho i don't disagree that if you're 500lbs, it was you're own fault and you want someone else to fix your bad choices.

Still ignoring the question about why a company you signed on to work for isn't allowed to institute policies...i don't agree with half the cr-p this place has policies for but if i don't like it i can leave. Either that or suck it up like i do.

If people eat so unhealthy & are 500 lbs & sit on their couch all day & get diabetes or heart disease, then by your logic they should not be able to go to the doctor or ER either

I agree with a couple diff posts here. Im vaxed but do believe loke the OP it should not be mandated by the government until its fully approved. People should have the right to choose. Just because i believe in it doesn't mean im right. Its my choice to believe in it.
The second post i agree with is the person that said we went looking to bnym for a job, not the other way around. Why when anyone says this, nobody has a response to it? They ignore it and just start calling others sheep. I honestly would like to hear some reasons why those that feel they should be making the company policies feel this way. May change my stance i currently have. Just stop dodging the comment...
Lastly, i agree with the individual with the RN family member as i have one too. She has experienced the same where they beg for the vax after the fact when its too late. People should have the right to choose but if you do get sick from it to point of needing medical treatment its already too late. Take some cough medicine and make a will instead.
Everything is a choice and people should be able to have them as they do. If i die from vax its my fault just like if someone else doesn't get the vax its their own fault if they die.

As someone that is vaccinated, I am completely against mandates of any kind. This should be up to the individual - period. The ugly truth is, federal courts are siding with the mandates. Even the Supreme Court is not willing to entertain this debate and immediately shut down a group of students fighting the mandate from the university they attend. What I’m getting at is that unfortunately there is no way to stop the mandates and it will only become more acceptable as time goes on - and that is still before the FDA approves it. Once it is 100% approved by the FDA, there will be zero risk of legal repercussions.

It’s discriminatory plain and simple… Spin it however you want but those are facts. They can’t terminate you do to skin color or religion, Or because you have he---s or aids.

This is not about getting vaccinated, its about government using your employer to control you, your body, and your healthcare! Any decisions to take or not to take the vaccine should be between you and your physician. It is not the government's decision, and its not of your employers business! Anyone who tells you otherwise is ignorant, misinformed, and out of line.

OP , everyone always has a choice. You may not like the choice to get a vaccine for employment or not get a vaccine and risk termination. Yet it is a choice.

You continue to type long winded rants. If you are firm in your decision, simply take action to not provide the info the company requested and reap the outcome. For your own happiness and mental health, please discontinue these rants and seek someone in your personal circle who shares your same viewpoint that you can talk with.

Completely agree with the op.
This hysteria has to end and will end as more & more people are seeing that the “experts” don’t know what they are doing & this supposed delta variant is less severe than the original, despite the media scare tactics.
Turn off the tv & quit living in rear. Choose Courage over fear.