I have just received shocking news this weekend that a very popular colleague of mine was sacked from his in BNY last week. Recently we were told that we would be made redundant and this colleague was brought into a HR meeting and advised he would potentially lose his job as he did not meet his in office requirements for 3 months. Each month he missed 1 day from the 4 week period requirement but was still attending work so bear in mind the work was still being done. He received no verbal or written warning just released from his contract. Now he will not receive any redundancy for the work he has done for the company. Absolutely shocking behaviour from BNY. It’s a shady way of going about not having to pay someone what they are owed considering the 3 months was last year and brought up a month after being told they would be made redundant. I really hope they claim unfair dismissal and report this to the local and national news as BNY need to be ashamed of themselves in my opinion. Does anyone else agree!
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He's been paid and settled now. I would imagine BNY didn't want anymore bad publicity in Ireland and gave in.
This post is so f'ing lame.
"Shocking news about BNY Wexford", talk about looking for attention.
If your 'friend' has not been abiding by RTO then serves them right, no sympathy whatsoever!
People measured over 20 days only need 1 or 2 exceptions to take target down a day. That should have been easily fixable, even retrospectively.
However in Ireland they shouldn't get away with no redundancy for someone being one day short in office. Take a case to WRC.
Your friend is telling you a lot of half truths here! The RTO policy is automated, if you don't meet your requirements in any given period you get an email the following week. The same rules apply to everyone no matter how senior they are. Your friend might not like the policy, plenty don't, including myself. Choosing to ignore it for one month is a silly mistake, doing it for 3 months in a row is id--tic and was always going to lead to termination.
The fact they only missed their in office days by one is even more stupid because it would have been a simple fix if they just behaved like an adult and addressed the issue.
And just how exactly is this “Despicable unethical behavior?”.
It’s a basic requirement of every job and Americans learn this at 16 years.
Fyi, showing up to work is the bare minimum. Performance is semi-objective. Attendance is a NOT. Not showing up gives any company a reason to fire you for cause.
theyre looking for reasons to fire anyone these days. with most resources offshore, theyll do anything to save a dollar and avoid severance
Standard policy is termination if an individual fails to meet RTO requirements for two months in twelve months period. BNY terminated them after three months.
How is this a shady practice? RTO isn't some dark secret. It's literally on the front page.
No warning? Surely for those three months, his dashboard would have shown "Below Model".
As an Irish employee there is a number of things that were done wrong in this dismissal in Irish employment law, the US, y’all have your own rules but if I was this guy I’d be straight on to employment rights and I wish him the best in fighting this
When it suits BNY it’s all get work from home, we’ve a storm and we need the BAU done, can’t have it both ways. Tell him to fight this
BNY does some cr-ppy things, this is not one of them. Your friend is wrong; he had an obligation to be in the office, but he wasn't. If he/she feel being in the office doesn't work for them, they should not be surprised they were let go. Especially if you knew you were going to be RIF'ed and get a package. How hard is this?
That’s bad for your friend and colleague and if he recieved no warnings or violations then he should fight it. But…… the answer will be something like: you are to act professional and coming to work and being in the office and on time are ‘your’ responsibility. And honestly, is it really shocking? This place will use any excuse now.
For 3 months one did not follow the tracker on the first page - home page - whenever one opens any browser?
There are rules and not even the managers and senior managers have a say when the rule is enforced. There are zillion ways to remediate the misses by working with your manager and getting exceptions.
I have done that - I had to travel back to my country from where I cannot work from home (Work Anywhere) - so it is no excuse.
The person was abusing the setup. Makes one wonder why the person did not attempt to remediate it through his immediate managers.. Smells
He didn’t meet RTO for 3 months and you consider it ‘shocking’ he was let go ???
LOL LOL LOL
, if you didnt meet the requirement, you get notified via email as well as your mgr. after the 2nd offense its termination so something doesnt make sense about him not knowing. The calculation they use to track doesn’t make sense either cause you have to be in so many days based on that which doesn't line up with the required 3 days in. They have you going in more than the system calculates that you have too . He needs to challenge it “if” he truly wasnt made aware of an issue
The fact of the matter is there are looking for any reason to get rid of all of us and every reason possible ( even made up false ones ) to get away without giving the severance earned.
Despicable unethical behavior
I'm sorry to hear the news about your colleague but the harsh reality is they only have themselves to blame here. Everyone is well aware of the in office requirements at this stage and should be aware of the consequences of not fulfilling them. Your colleague was stupid enough to give the company an opportunity to get rid of them without paying severance and of course they took it.
I'd definitely be looking further into this if I were him. Especially if he can prove that other people who don't meet the requirements get their payouts. Had he logged exceptions for the days he missed? I assume the company give verbal, 1st written, final written warnings before terminations unless gross misconduct? Reading this and taking it at face value I think BNY is making an example of this person but if I were him I'd 100% fight it.
Was your friend there long? Would be have been owed much? I’d go to citizens advice and chat with them, without any warnings he could have a case here