We are in massive non-compliance by getting engineering services from non-registered engineers from not only out of province, but out of the country.
Report this while you can.
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@111 ah ye; I also have fond memories of a fa-t I let rip two days ago and another from this morning. The smell was intoxicating. It sounds like you like the smell of yours as well, friend.
I seem to recall long ago being called a "Protectionist" for wanting to keep jobs here. Many of the so-called credible news organizations such as CBC pushed this narrative saying it was good for the economy and labeled us as "Protectionists", even though most countries, including India, have rules in place preventing offshoring.
I also remember everyone agreeing with the the media because, well, the it's the mainstream media. They wouldn't lie... Right?
PEO is the same…. Useless clown organization.
Why aren't the middle manager and executive roles outsourced to a third world country? That will really help the bottom line.
Go on then, report it.
APEGA is in on it. They DNGAF.
@f7 hey apega is also closing Calgary office and centralizes everything to edmonton. What a coincidence, maybe we can share office space and braid each other hair!
@f0
APEGA is impotent, without tight monitoring and disciplinary action, essentially policing the whole association is meaningless and its ability to protect whistleblowers is in my opinion non existent when it comes to reprisals especially career reprisal. When this happens, unless strong surveillance is made like the armed forces would do as part of their mandate, there are no consequences for people breaking the law.
A typical example is operators interfering with engineering by providing " input about engineers and performance", that would be as absurd as a hospital orderly providing "feedback" about a licensed doctor or surgeon but that is how private companies operate.
You all talk big game about reporting but all I see is just a bunch of minions running around like headless chickens. Go talk to apega see if it makes any difference.
@cz Thats the thing. Nobody will report them to the regulators because they have all participated in irregularities to keep their employment.
@c0 Go on and report this. If you are an engineer it is actually your duty to do this.
@be there was no action taken on feedback. All it takes for APEGA is to do a simple audit. Spring, KL and BTC work for IOL are all unauthenticated. Fake IOL processes in place that are neither enforced or stewarded to.
LTTS maintains a site presence with stamping engineers for this very reason. Futile attempt.
So who’s going to email Apega anonymously? Or better yet CBC marketplace to bring down house of cards on unregulated engineering across all majors?
You would be surprised with how little background information they gather before making these kinds of changes. Its usually: make a decision, roll it out, and figure out details as you go.
All the Canadian engineering organization are a scam. I been saying this for decades.
This proves my point.
@ab they should be. I know for a fact they had plenty of feedback from APEGA when they have has US engineers do work and not gone through the proper channels.
I mean mpre legitimate complaints and trouble for execs is a win. Even if it doesnt work out, them having to defend it to regulators is a good thing
@a9 I can tell you that EM is not aware of the authentication process for engineered work in Alberta.
EM does not care as they do not have this requirement. Any engineering, irrespective of who is stamping, done for the province needs to be done by folks registered with APEGA. They cannot cut technical folks once they realize that the eng/geo team in India is not registered.
Knowing ExxonMobil, I’m sure they have fully vetted this scheme. Great idea but probably a waste of time.
Its not actually illegal or non-compliant. You just need someone to stamp it off