Thread regarding BD (Becton Dickinson & Co.) layoffs

@rh TGS is bad because they provided high value leadership roles to people who doesn’t even qualify for a lower level job. Then they hired and promoted a lot of people like them.

@rh TGS is a real blocker, bunch of idi0ts who have more power than they deserve.

TGS/TDS is a complete joke and I look forward to leaving. The CIO should too!

@np TGS is immaterial, they have been digging their own grave for quite some time. At this point, I strongly recommend that BD consider fully dismantling that team. From a business standpoint, we are well-positioned to take ownership and can deliver far better results than what TGS is currently providing. You will be surprised to know how many business leaders feel the same way.

@mn TGS seems to hire more through connections than actual skills, while the business side still gives skills at least some say in the process. Honestly, TGS hiring has a bit of that classic “who you know” vibe - that is the pattern most departments with substantial Indian population follow.

@mn you need to broaden your circle, there are many. I can name many, but don’t want to reveal names here.

@gn I'm sorry but I have yet to meet one business person who knows technology better than TGS - not saying everyone in TGS is great - but please, the number of people who have ZERO clue how the system works or what data is or what data should be used to report what is minuscule at best. Please. laughable

@fm FLKS is BD political headquarter. In BD, without any skill one can become Director, Senior Director or even VP. Do you know we have many business leaders who understand technology way better than these bunch of TGS jokers from FLKS office? Why is that the case? Because all of them are in office! And they only do politics there.

@OP spot on 100%. And to anyone who thinks remote means running errands and doing laundry any time you want, you're delusional. Sure I can throw a load of laundry in at lunch time, but do I really? Nope. Because I'm in work mode not home/chores mode. That maybe happens once a month on a day I realize I've barely moved from my desk. In the office I walked around, went to meeting rooms, had lunch away from my desk. That doesn't happen at home and if you're a hard worker, dedicated to your job, you have to make conscious effort to step away. I can't imagine a scenario in which I'd have time to go run errands. Any outing, dr appt or whatever, goes on the calendar just as it did when I was in office. When I'm in office, so much of my day is wasted on useless conversation and interruptions. Wife works in office so a quiet house is 100% more productive than office. Also agree with "out of sight out of mind." The visibility of a mediocre in office employee beats the good work of a remote employee when it comes time for recognition, promotion. Seen that happen so many times to so many deserving remote workers. There are pros, of course, like no commute, not worrying about what to wear. But don't glorify it. The grass isn't always greener.

@b9 I partially agree with your point. Partially because remote work definitely has its advantages, and everything you listed is true.

That said, I think the visibility issue is real. If you're working closely with decision-makers and seeing them every day, you naturally have an advantage over someone who only meets them a couple of times a year.

@b9 @bd I am a remote people manager and wholeheartedly agree that being remote is a perk. Whilst not fully the case employees can't fight against outsourcing but also want a job to be done remote.
As for the OP note on joining meetings that are early - sorry that's the expectation for everyone regardless of where they're located. This whole leadership interaction opportunity being afforded to in-person employees is overblown since leaders are always flying around.

Spot on @b9

Having the option to work remotely is more appealing and to suggest otherwise is to not be serious. Painting it as some sort of disadvantage is comical. Many remote workers have the option to come into the office from time to time for that visibility, while having the privilege of working in the comforts of their home whenever they want. Non-remote workers do not have that benefit. All larger companies have employees across all timezones. BD is nothing special or unique. Whether you’re on the west coast and have to be on a call at 6 am or on the east coast and have a 10 pm call with GA, it’s part of the role you choose to be in. I would bet the farm that those in the west who log in at 6 from their bedrooms would not trade their situation if given the option. They’re also able to drop the kids off to school, pick them up, run errands throughout the day, do laundry, etc. Working remotely is a benefit/perk, period. I’m not criticizing it, he-l, I’d do it in a heartbeat if I was allowed! lol

@ay be respectful, all of them have vision for BD. They all are visionaries.

People in FLKS hardly work, they do politics. And one id--t praises other 🤡. Full of low IQ jokers.