I heard that BNYMellon managers in India mistreat employees and treat them like *t. They treat them like India’s cast-outcast system (the untouchables). Anyone in the U.S. reporting to managers in India? Please let us know how they treat you, or if they expect you to be their *ves? Anyone knows Indian managers violating U.S. labor and civil rights laws?
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You don’t “dread about”. You dread something.
@audu uses a period when they should have used a question mark and a question mark when they should have used a period while making fun of a typo someone made while typing "filing".
Seriously now, how many people do you need before you are done “filling up your lawsuit”. I always thought that you only needed one plaintiff?
One of the factors that explain the incompetence in management. I guess you get what you pay for!
The Op and his subsequent post shows that this is a politically motivated post - mostly likely he/she belongs to one of the religious communities the world population dreads about ..
In today's India being a dalit is the best thing a parent can give a child. Everything from higher education to all the way the SC judge appointment is quota based fast path promotion system sans qualifications or ability.
Anyone who follows India will notice that they are fighting to be classified as Dalits - a lower caste nomination - so that they can get the free ride all thru their life. Parasitical existence ? Why would one would go through to classify / identify unless there is a benefit associated in a society that is caste-oriented ?
Yes it is rewarding to be a lower caste person in India. You can kick back and enjoy the life. No work - well reminds me BNYM managers.
Who is this ar-e* (op). What does he/she think that can be achieved?
India is a country where discrimination based on birth rules. Whoever thinks that the so-called brahmins are at the helm think again. It is the privileged , quota-entitled "lower" caste that which rules the land with incompetency and birthright based promotions, career openings and allocations - So the labor laws may be violated the other way around - the so-called reverse-discrimination - And whoever is familiar with Indian laws knows that even a simple complaint to the cops can result in non-bailable arrest by the police and be jailed for a year without any due process.
So who is complaining ?
This is always going to be a problem, but it is unsolvable because our H-1B employees work much harder and better than Americans. They’re also surpassing us in education and work ethic with the Gen Z generation.
Heck, include the Americans here… they don’t seem to have been educated at all.
And here is our resident racist.
I am the original poster, and thanks for the “caste” correction. Micromanaging is typical of Indian managers, and US employees immediately notice it when they begin reporting to managers in Pune or Chennai. It’s toxic
It's a caste system in India, not a cast system (that's Hollywood).
The Indian manager who ran one of our groups in India just quit, so now they're reporting to someone here in the US. They were definitely micro-managed, based on what I've heard, so it'll be interesting to see what happens now.
Having employees in one country report to managers in another country is always a risk due to differences in employment law, HR processes, and cultures. This is yet another indication of mismanagement and short-sightedness on the part of BNYM.
I will back up any Indian manager's violation and submit to local USA Department of Labor for lawsuits. The Indian managers didn't go through USA school system; they don't know when they violated civil rights laws in USA. The more lawsuits, the merrier. Maybe I don't win any money in the lawsuit, but I want to make it messier.
I am the original poster of this post. I intended it to be a discussion about the irrationality of making American employees based in the USA report to managers located in India. I strongly reject any kind of racism against our Indian coworkers, whom I have personally found to be decent and nice human beings. That being said, I also know that the bank has recently begun allowing US employees to report to Indian managers, and there are reports that mistreatment is happening because Indian managers are behaving as if they were the upper class in a class society, in which lower-ranked employees are supposed to accept constant demands with a fearful smile. It’s unfortunately similar to India’s despicable cast system that labels a segment of India’s population as “untouchables”. The Modi Hindu fundamentalist regime has made India intolerant of non-Hindu minorities, and this could impact non-Hindu BNYMellon employees based in Chennai and Pune.
As always the predictable racism in an otherwise thoughtful conversation.
I agree and some of these Indian managers would likely cost company dearly if they mistreated American employees based in the USA. We have labor and civil rights laws and at both state and federal levels. I also agree with you that our Indian coworkers are mostly good and decent human beings. I also feel bad for our Indian coworkers because their Indian managers mistreat them like if they were in a cast system .
There has obviously been a lot of racial animosity towards our India workers. It’s sad to see how U.S. employees view their coworkers.
However, this is actually the one legitimate complaint against offshore managers. Culturally Indian managers are used to a caste system, stemming from their religion, and many of us have experienced this issue. It is a difficult position to be in and you must go to HR.
Filling a lawsuit?
Bad idea making U.S. employees report to Chennai/Pune-based Indian managers. I know of one U.S-based employee in the process of filling a lawsuit, and an India-based psycho manager named as a defendant.
The problems are the language barrier and they are super inferior employees. I hate team meetings with them- I can’t understand what they are saying, but you have to fake it to be PC.
They are mean, but what can one do but “do the needful” and eat some curry AND avoid cow meat. Namaste!!!!!