This is getting ridiculous. The gap just keeps shrinking between hard working TMs who have worked their way up and those that just stumble in. They used to reward longevity but that was back when TM happiness was actually a thing. This kind of joke decision making is why all worthwhile TLs have left or will leave for places where they can make a decent wage and not get more work for same pay. Soon the talent will be gone and the ship will sink.
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Lol when I questioned them on that when I still worked for WFM, I basically got laughed at and was told "**** happens" and if I didn't like it, to get a new job and leave...so I did.
What's the new minimum? I didn't see this anywhere.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-06/an-unintended-consequence-of-wal-mart-pay-raise-unhappy-workers
I think all caps where raised for anyone under store leadership.
Yes
ATL/TL pay?
Actually....what did?
Actally it did. So.......
In my region only million dollar stores have baggers, using the minimum wage theory, grocery stocking and anyone assembling food from parts or making coffee would be minimum wage and part time too too. The way we are moving that will be most of the store team members with just a few full time well paid managers. I did hiring for 15 years wth WFM. The last year I saw a new trend of people lasting less than 3 days after hitting the sales floor, come back and say, thank you but for what y'all pay I can get 10 easier jobs handed to me in an hour. I also saw a trend of people not accepting the pay offered and trying to negotiate much higher wages to start. College kids and and part time seniors or parents work for hiring in some areas, in areas where the average household income is extremely high, none of those people have to work and you are left with bringing in people from a distance who have to earn a real living. We fire so many people who had 3 jobs and ar relying on the bus to make it to work on time for their 3 hour shift . Another issue we run into is having 4 other Whole Foods within 15 minutes and we were all competing for the same applicants, each store Rarely does anyone make it past 90 days. We have gone back to allowing hiring of 16 year old cashiers in my region but we can't pay them lower per regional, they must have a supervisor complete every alchohol purchase, in my store that is almost every transaction and although they can gather trash and compost an adult must put it in the compactor or baler. Retail and food service has gotten tough, I don't see it getting better anytime soon, good luck if you hang in there.
cashiers and baggers are overpaid. those are minimum wage jobs. jobs that aren't meant to be a career - they're for college kids on summer break or 16 year olds looking for part time work. sorry to be cruel, just how it is.
back when wfm increased the minimum pay for everyone is when budgets started to tighten up for everyone else.
I'm just here waiting for the "tls and atls are overpaid" comments to start...
I work for a wfm competitor in NYC... the ruff neck inner city kids...many with out h.s degrees ...get 40 hours a week...Obama care...and after a year and a half on the job..weekend overtime..that means any sat/sun shift is time and a half...plus it's a union gig with guaranteed raises .50 a year...this company doesn't have the power wfm has in their pinky toe ..but gives their workforce a better deal...plus fun is actually allowed and not faked like at wfm...YOU ARE BEING RIPPED OFF...on the wfm work force...don't really know why..there has always been contempt in that company for "workers who weren't proper Whole Foods people"...yknow not properly indoctrinated...folks just looking for a check...and not believing in the cause...85 percent of Tms fall in the latter category and it's always been that way...it therefore easy for wfm to treat their rank and file shabbily...theyre cheeseburger eating scum anyway who don't composted so let them languish in the poverty they deserve
EXACTLY! Soon the media and litigators will catch wind of how deceptive WFM has become and how horribly they treat their TLs. I won't get anyone in trouble on here but I can tell you... it is happening.
We are raising the hiring pay so that we have something to brag about. "Our starting wage is higher than other stores ... that must mean we treat our employees better!" It's smoke and mirrors. Just a way to distract from the mass layoffs, shrinking labor budgets, lack of training, daily witch hunts used to fire us so they don't have to pay us severance, etc.
Well said! This the hot topic of conversation presently in my store. We're going to lose a lot of good and under appreciated people soon to the competition and that makes me very, well, very sad.
Last poster sounds like a corporate troll
"I'm challenged on salaries all the time," Mackey said in the book, as reported by Business Insider. "How come you are paying this regional president this much, and I'm only making this much?' I have to say, 'because that person is more valuable. If you accomplish what this person has accomplished, I'll pay you that, too.'"
Opinions regarding this approach, at least across the Internet, are mixed. "Totally abhorrent policy,'" wrote one commenter on Business Insider. "I'm sorry, but the idea of transparency has gone a little too far," wrote another commenter. "I don't think knowing everyone's salaries makes for a rosier culture or happier employees."
But people were cheering Mackey on Twitter. "Wish this management practice that Whole Foods has about salary was actually law," wrote one user. "Sharing salary info is beneficial to productivity and growth," wrote another.
It helps that Whole Foods' employees are better paid than the average grocery worker. The chain's average hourly wage was $18.89 in 2013, and the average annual wage was $39,289. All full-time and part-time workers can get stock options after they have worked for the equivalent of three full-time years.
How much does Mackey, who co-founded Whole Foods, make? Just $1 in annual salary. And he doesn't get any bonuses, stock awards or option awards, either.
"I have reached a place in my life where I no longer want to work for money," he wrote in a letter to employees in 2007. "The tremendous success of Whole Foods Market has provide me with far more money than I ever dreamed I'd have and far more than is necessary for either my financial security or personal happiness."
Other executives have no problem taking home a paycheck. Co-chief executive Water Robb made $3.2 million last year in total compensation. Nearly the same amount was earned by president and chief operating officer A.C. Gallo.
I have worked with many awful TL allot of them have no justification in being paid what they do. I'm not saying they all are but many are terrible and vastly over paid.