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Larger load Multiple Directors telling everyone they need to take on more of a load

I saw in previous post same thing was stated .Being told we need to carry a bigger load now.Im relieved to survive the rif but I’m just not sure it’s fair we now have to carry an even bigger load!I mean why should we be expected to carry our own load plus now everyone else load that was let go.Does anyone agree or should we just deal with the bigger load


VSP

I got pretty lucky a while ago after almost 30 yrs i took the VSP and was in the first group in September 2024 at 62...

my verizon health care ends at the end of november and if i want to keep it, it will be out of pocket.

i am covering the last 22 months till i hit 65 and get medicare with va health care, and i still have a good chunk of my vsp money left to live on for now...

i have not touched my 401 or my investmnts yet, and i have not filed for social security either.\

i agree that simplifying your life helps a lot and the drop in stress is a huge bonus!!!
but everyone has different situaitons, different ages and their own finances to adjust to...

work every angle, you might be surprised whats out there to help you.

i wish the best of luck to everyone at verizon dealing with the rif, and if you were good at what you did, another opportunity will come along.


CIO RIF

If you can’t already tell. CIO is under increased scrutiny for headcount. They are looking to reduce costs/headcount by 10% across all CIO pillars for 2026 and achieve something called “reimagine work “ by 2027? I’m not sure what reimagine work is but doesn’t sound good. Especially if it’s following a goal to reduce costs.


Feeling a bit better made it thru My director told me I should be good next round of layoffs

So we have all been stressed but made it thru .I am feeling better since my director told me I should be ok the next round of rifs after the frontier merger.He said we all may have to pick up the extra slack but it will show we are value.


RIF CA remote workers

If you only received a 30 daybWARN notice, CHALLENGE IT. They are trying to sc--w those of us that work remote. Your job profile probably says walnut or Irvine. Contact the Ask HR and be sure to challenge their policy (which is not the law). Here is what I sent... (the more of us that challenge their bad business practice the better for all of us)

Dear HR Department / [Specific HR Contact Name if known],
I am writing to formally acknowledge receipt of the layoff notification dated November 20, 2025, with an effective date of December 20, 2025.
Given the significant number of employees affected by the recent workforce reduction, both within California and company-wide, I have questions regarding the notice period provided under applicable state and federal laws, specifically the California WARN Act and the federal WARN Act.
The notice I received provides 30 days' advance notice. However, both the federal WARN Act and the California WARN Act generally require employers to provide at least 60 days' advance written notice for mass layoffs.
I kindly request the following information:
Clarification of the Notice Period: Please confirm if the 30-day notice period is being provided in accordance with a specific exception to the 60-day notice requirement (such as the "unforeseeable business circumstances" or "faltering company" exceptions), and if so, provide documentation supporting the applicability of that exception.
Documentation of Compliance: Please provide documentation verifying that notice has been given to the appropriate state agency (California Employment Development Department (EDD)) and local government officials as required by the WARN Act regulations. Employers can email their notices to the EDD at eddwarnnotice@edd.ca.gov.
I appreciate your prompt attention to this matter and look forward to receiving the requested information.
Sincerely,
[Your Full Name]
[Your Phone Number]
[Your Employee ID Number]


Keep Kicking a RIFer while they are down

Bad enough after 30 years to get kicked to the curb as a high performer, but now they are starting to remove people from the Slack groups. Just another reminder of you are just a number. Couldn't wait until everyone is off the payroll, just keep ripping off the band aid again and again.


AI

Isn't it just pathetic that anything they ever mention in these town hall meetings is AI? Who cares about AI and their silly agents. FIS dropped 24% in 12 months, they are doing massive RIFs, morale is very very low and all they can do is wear silly hats and talk about AI.


RIF selection process

The criteria for every RIF is usually different. It starts out with getting a list using some generic criteria. They do this for legal reasons, so they can legally justify that the RIF applied to a group of people and someone was not being singled out or discriminated against. Examples of lists in the past, anyone who worked remote (pre-Covid), anyone who got less than a 3 on their review, any manager with less than 5 reports, or any director that is lower than 5 levels deep. As a manager, you need to be cautious about how you answer any surveys about your employees. For example, once they asked about employee roles and if a QA was a manual tester or automated tester. A couple months later all the manual testers were on the list.

Once the generic list is created, it is shared with managers to a certain level. Sometimes the immediate manager is informed of who is is on the list but sometimes they are not. The managers who get to see the list than have to fight to get someone off and that fight isn't easy. If they do manage to win, they often then need to supply a different name.

All in all, there is usually a financial target they are trying to hit and that can impact how the list is created as well. Products they want to disinvest in will have more people on the list than products that they think will be the next big thing.

I found this informative. OP: @aw+1kakcej6y


Goodby and good riddance

I have been at Optum for 8 years. I love my team. I had a really great Manager until they brought in a Design guy who was some influencer. This dude was an a-s clown.. The problem was not him, it was leadership above him. They wanted to bring in someone who would “shake things up”.. Well, they did. He was a train wreck. Since then things have gone down hill. Our leadership acts and has the intelligence of a JV squad at a community college. They make cr-p decisions, they tell us to embrace AI and then don't give us money to get tools that use AI. We are led by fools and mo--ns. I have been waiting for this RIF for at least a year. Happy it is finally here. I no longer need to worry if it is gonna happen to me or when. I wish all the employees well, I wish leadership to get a clue. Last person off site.. Make sure to turn off the lights (or get someone from India to do it). After all… Thats where all the work is going.. Bye for now :-)


Anyone plan to volunteer for the next RIF?

Does anyone else plan to volunteer for the next RIF? My manager said she firmly believes there will be another RIF after the Frontier merger and that it will impact our department. I have been unhappy in my role for the last year or so (largely due to changes that happened since the VSP). Can we volunteer for the next RIF? Or does that not carry any weight?


Layoff Memo

Dear Team,
After years of paying you to do your jobs, we've discovered that the real problem holding Verizon back from "delighting customers" is.... you! Specifically, 13,000+ of you. Your salaries are apparently the only thing standing between us and becoming "faster, simpler, leaner, and scrappier". We are firing a fifth of our managers so the rest of you can live up to your potential. This isn't a layoff, it's an exciting "reset" and "reorientation" around our sacred mission of delighting customers. Think of it as a HOLIDAY GIFT. 'Tis the season to be overworked as we enter this new era of additional blackout days and longer store hours. If it doesn't ki-l you it will make you stronger which should help you during our next rounds of "promotions to customer". But don't worry, we're putting 20 million in a "reskilling and career transition fund" - that's roughly $1,500 per person which is totally enough to learn to code or become an influencer in this economy. We didn't even notice this was taking place during the holiday season and trust us, it was totally unintentional. Survivors, act grateful, work harder, and remember: the next "reset" is always one bad quarter away. Cheers!


Start preparing now

The amount of panic and anxiety on this board was overwhelming for the last month. I hope that it served as a lesson (it did for me) to not wait to get our affairs in order. Start preparing and looking for jobs now, the RIF's are not done. If you get complacent again, you will go through the same panic in a few months.


GN&T employee

Managers, directors , vp , etc…. Are you guys even thinking this through ? How is this even remotely healthy working environment for the ones left behind to cover so many sites. I got peers with 200 + sites. We were so thin with the VSP and now this left us broken. I guess who cares about work life balance. I swear if there’s another RIF and you guys touch GNT I think you may cripple the network. I hope you main plan isn’t to replace everyone with contractors. Did you not learn from Hans and sprint ? You want to compete with T-Mobile and At&T but this is not the way. Loosing top talent just to go work for the competitor.


Move on or jump ship

I have no experience in running a small company, let alone a big one. I can think of a strategy to fire employees to save money and show increased profits to raise share price.

The current ceo with so much experience is coming up with the same strategy to compete with T-Mobile and AT&T!!

I see no future for Verizon. If you get RIFed, think positive and look for a better company.. consider it x years wasted on a company run by people who have no vision.

If you don’t get RIFed, take this as a wake up call to jump ship because it’s sinking.

There is no VTeam feel anymore here. With so much uncertainty, unrealistic deadlines, there is no dignity nor recognition of the hard work done. Simply blackmail tactics.


Stock down

Oh, look at that. The stock price went down. Again. Color me surprised.

A company which RIFs its staff for non-personal performance reasons is a company which has failed. A company which RIFs its staff to increase the stock price is even worse - and they’ve even failed at that!

And a company which RIFs its staff for the personal enrichment of its upper levels is something beyond failure.


Any rumors abotu RIFs?

I am wondering if there any rumors about layoffs? It has been really quite and lower level management states that there will be no layoffs. Just curious. I see topics about a bunch of other topics, but not layoffs.


Verizon - the land of constant RIFs

I left VZ enterprise a few years ago and I will share this. One thing that was tiresome were the constant RIF's., I started with Verizon back in 2010...they had 164000 employees...just to put that into perspective, the company continues to shrink, continuess to be mismanaged, continues to flounder with no real direction or plan to build the company and make it strong. On the flip side, NTT employs 250K people globally and yes they have their fair share of problems, but they are not shrinking like Verizon is...


Severance Package

I was hired in December 2 years ago and in the RIF call I asked my manager if I will get severance based on the last day of work or notice day which will make a difference to get a 1 or 2 years based severance package.
He didn't know and said HR will contact you but no one did so I wonder what to expect as I didn't get any further communication yet after my manager's call