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Some Perspective on Executive Greed

While employees wait to find out if they’ll have a job when the VSP determinations settle, and the layoffs ensue, here’s what Centene’s top leadership has accumulated in company stock.

Executive Approx. Stock Value 2025 Compensation
Sarah London (CEO) ~$78.1M ~$21.6M
Drew Asher (CFO) ~$48.6M ~$10.3M
Chris Koster ~$23.1M ~$8.2M
Fred Eppinger ~$23.0M ~$0.6M (Board)
Ken Burdick ~$17.4M ~$7.4M
Susan Smith ~$13.7M ~$6.8M
Michael Carson ~$11.5M N/A
Tanya McNally ~$8.3M ~$5.8M
Katie Casso ~$7.2M ~$5.5M

Meanwhile, thousands of employees have spent months wondering whether VSP, layoffs, outsourcing, or another reorganization is coming for them.

We hear a lot about being “good stewards of taxpayer dollars.” We also hear that “when the business changes, we need to change with it.”

Fair enough. But stewardship shouldn’t only flow downhill.

If employees are expected to absorb the uncertainty, workload, and career disruption that come with those changes, it’s reasonable to ask whether leadership should share more of that burden too.

The numbers above aren’t opinions, rather they’re from Centene’s public SEC filings. The contrast between executive wealth and employee anxiety is what people are reacting to.


Little VZ stock pop is due to the Iran conflict heating up, NOT due to VZ leadership decisions

AT&T and TMO are also up. Look at the history of these telecom stocks. They go up when the other equities go down due to market risks increasing (wars, rising oil, etc.). Grandma clutches her pearls tighter and moves her money to utilities. She'll move it out of telecom when she thinks the risk is less, and VZ will then continue it's slide.


Riddle Me This

I understand senior management milking this whole game of grabbing cash till it is gone. I also understand older employees staying until social security is close. Perks of vacation time and free travel to events must be great for them. But, how is any second tier lien holder of this debt calculating they will get all their money back?
With stock dropping causing loss in investments and the REAL debt being said it would be closer to 9 billion, what bank would possibly feel ok with this?
Could someone explain this? Are there hidden advantages here somehow.


Delay in earnings date...

Hmmm Maybe something is afoot. Usually by now the earnings date would of been announced. Perhaps there is something that is just taking a little more time to draft and run by the board? We have been distancing our earnings to get far away from Insight's earnings to avoid dragging the stock down, but this seems quite unusual. They su-k and so do we, but what do you all think? what's the word? where's the beef?


Shareholder Perspective

As a prior employee who was laid off over a year ago, I have to admit that from a shareholder perspective who was fully vested with ESPP shares for several years, it appears that the moves that NetApp is making has increased my account value significantly. While I didn't appreciate being cut from the company, I am enjoying seeing the company make me money while I'm sleeping. Cheers and best wishes to you all!


Stinky vs the “other” CEO(s)

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2026/07/15/bny-ceo-robin-vince-goes-one-on-one-with-jim-cramer.html

Granted this comparison is Fin-tech vs Telco; but T stock has actually dropped under Stinky and this company’s stock has risen 290% since this guy took over… Robin Vince is doing SOMETHING right…

Stinky’s resume speaks for itself; stock holder devaluation, losing biz deals, failed ideas, failed vision, nearly zero respect from the employees and even losing respect of “The Market” he seems to favor. If only T could get a guy like this at the helm!!


A Vote of Confidence for Arvind

Today is a difficult moment for IBM, its employees, its shareholders, and its leadership. Sharp market reactions are never easy, and there will undoubtedly be tough questions in the days ahead.

That said, I have confidence in Arvind. Leading one of the world's largest technology companies isn't about one trading day or one earnings report—it's about making decisions that position the company for long-term success. Every CEO faces setbacks. What matters most is how they respond.

IBM has overcome major challenges throughout its history because its leaders stayed focused on execution, innovation, and serving customers. I believe Arvind and his executive team will learn from this, adapt where necessary, and continue building for the future.

Setbacks are temporary. Leadership is measured over years, not a single day. I'm confident IBM will continue to innovate, compete, and succeed over the long run.


Sinking ship?

Cost of HSI is more than the revenue it generates. 3% HSI customers occupies more than 50% of network capacity.
Hence more layoffs to reduce overall costs.
Stock price stays high bcoz the volume is low average daily is less than 1/10th volume of Verizon or AT&T.
Markets are getting tricked but will this continue?


A tidal wave of SpaceX shares after lockup expiration

This isn’t investment advice. Just sharing something I read because there was a lot of hype around the SpaceX IPO on this very forum.

https://x.com/gnoble79/status/2076080526042038465

The largest IPO in history is also shaping up to be the largest exit liquidity operation in history

SpaceX went public at more than 90x revenue, and the insiders who bought in at a fraction of today's price are about to start selling their shares to you.

Let me walk you through why this IPO is built to separate retail investors from their money:

SpaceX has NEVER turned a profit and lost close to $5 billion last year.

At the offering you were paying more than 90x revenue and at the peak the market briefly valued it near 140x.

30 years ago the head of Sun Microsystems explained in detail why paying even 10x revenue almost always ends in tears, and he was right.

But listen closely, because the valuation is not even the real story.

The scarcity is what CREATED this valuation in the first place, and the calendar that ki-ls the scarcity is what ki-ls the price.

Less than 5% of SpaceX shares were actually available to trade at the IPO. Then the index committees REWROTE their own rules to fast track the stock into the Nasdaq 100 just 15 trading days after listing, which forced every passive fund and index ETF in the country to buy at the exact moment the float was at its tightest. The Nasdaq inclusion alone forced an estimated $4.3 billion of buying, and the Russell reweighting added roughly $3 billion more.

The supply was minuscule and the buying was mandatory. That's a manufactured squeeze, and it is why the stock went above $225 in its first week.

Now watch what happens next, because this is the part they ain't explaining to you:

The lockup was staggered on purpose, and the entire schedule is sitting in the prospectus for anyone who bothers to read it.

In early August, right after Q2 earnings, 20% of the locked shares come free. Another 10% unlocks early if the stock trades 30% above the $135 IPO price going into the report.

Then tranches of 7% hit the market at 70, 90, 105, 120 and 135 days after the IPO, which means fresh insider supply lands roughly every 2 to 3 weeks from late August through late October.

Q3 earnings triggers the single biggest release of all, another 28%, roughly 1.3 billion shares. On December 8 the 180 day lockup expires entirely. And on June 12, 2027 comes the final wave, when Musk's own 6.4 billion shares, 42% of the whole company, become sellable for the first time.

Add it all up and insiders could be free to sell as much as 44% of the company by early September, which would balloon the tradable float by roughly 900%.

All of that supply lands on a stock the company deliberately packed with retail, because SpaceX reserved close to 30% of the offering for individual investors vs the usual 10%.

This deal created over 4,400 paper millionaires inside the company. You think none of them are looking to cash out?

Early holders are already loading up on puts to lock in what they have.

First they keep the float tiny. Then they let the index rules force the world to buy at the top. Then they release a flood of insider stock into a crowd of retail buyers who were handed the shares up high.

When the price finally breaks the offering level, the people who got in years ago at pennies on today's dollar will hit the bid, and the exit liquidity is your retirement account.

And what are you actually left holding? Strip away the science fiction and the only business inside SpaceX that reliably earns money is Starlink, which produced $1.2 billion of operating income last quarter. A wonderful business worth hundreds of billions on its best day. NOT $2 trillion.

Serious fair value work lands around $30 a share.

Nobody has been a bigger bear on this deal than me. I called it out the moment it started trading, and it is already playing out on schedule as the shares have given back the entire squeeze and slipped below their opening print.

I was Peter Lynch's auto analyst back in 1981 and I have watched every disaster since, and I am telling you this is one of the great wealth transfers of my lifetime packed into a fancy narrative.

Tesla was the biggest misallocation of capital in the history of stock markets. SpaceX may have just surpassed it.

SPCX goes straight onto my short list, and the beauty of this setup is that the catalyst is not a guess or something, it is literally a PUBLISHED CALENDAR.

This is the most grossly overpriced stock at scale that I have ever seen.