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They did me a favor

After spending the last three years wondering if this Tuesday was the day my number would come up, my number finally came up.

I knew Wells consistently sets new record levels of workplace toxicity. Whenever one hears stories about heinously toxic levels at other companies, Wells says “Hold my beer.” But still I did everything I could to keep my job. I was afraid that at my age no one would hire me and I’d basically be unemployable, so a toxic job at Wells is better than no job.

However, long before my severance was up I found a better job at a better bank — A bank with a healthy work environment and one that actually values its employees beyond the occasional Wells e-card stating how much they appreciate you until they fire you and send your job to India.

There is another long-term Wells survivor here, and she told me that she believes many of us carry a lightweight PTSD from the toxic environment at Wells. She may have a point in that over time I can feel the work stress and work paranoia leave me, and I’m sleeping well again.

So DAR, you incompetent fools did me a favor by forcing me out after 20 years. But as a final goodbye, at noon tomorrow, 7/23/26, in going to stand in my desk with my back towards Chandler and drop my pants. At that time, please face north and blow sweet kisses at my shiny white a$$.


Toxic Humana is an Embarrassment to Louisville

The toxicity of Humana is off the charts and they have sleazy lawyers protecting them from all their mismanagement of the business, putting greed before member care, and toxic treatment to employees.

Humana, being one of the largest companies in Louisville and the entire state if Kentucky, is an embarrassment to both.

If I was the Louisville Mayor or the Kentucky Governor, I would probably recognize this and put pressure on Humana to get their house in order and make some changes for the positive, to truly put members first, before shareholders, in regards to the actual business that is their mission. And to start treating their employees much more fairly and to tell Humana to have their Humana Resources department to actually take employee complaints seriously regarding their direct leader’s abuse and to stop protecting the company’s reputation at all costs, even when it flies in the face of all decency.


Speak up ANONYMOUSLY

Don”t speak up unless you do it anonymously. Keep records of everything and document! dated, times etc. Then if nothing changes OR you start to be treated different because your leader knows you are the one that filed the complaint then file a claim of retaliation through EEOC. If this has already happened to you file the claim NOW! Even if you are still employed. Nike has to address the EEOC and we can’t keep staying silent while we work for this company that allows discrimination and retaliation. The EEOC will starts to see the trend. Do it NOW! We deserve to feel safe when we come to work and HR and Legal don’t have our back and it’s toxic! Don’t make this toxic culture the norm. Remember that we spend more time at work than we do with our family. It’s taking a toll! Maybe after we expose how toxic it is then Nike can actually recover. Right now we are in fight or flight mode and nothing productive happens in that headspace.


ABSOLUTELY RESIGN!

I know you are feeling sad and tired. Exhausted from having to actually do work. It’s okay, that’s what a resignation does. It helps eliminate the toxic waste in a company and allows you to go to other publishers and su-k the life out of them. If you can’t make your numbers, resign. If the pressure is just too much, resign. If you’re just plain old incompetent, resign. Resigning is good for everyone - you don’t even need a new job, resign so you can use your full set of high quality skills and apply them to landing your next sale - making your future employer believe that you can deliver. Happy resigning!


A few thoughts 3,5 years after leaving ATT (RTO)

First I'll say that I genuinely enjoyed my small team at AT&T with whom I worked the last 20 years of my career there. I have no resentment to the time I spent there, so this isn't a complaining post, just some perspective after some time away. I was in management, doing technical work and app development for sales support.

Most of my team, about 80%, was laid off for not moving to Dallas (most of the rest were already there; one or two moved there). We were in various focus cities supporting our local sales teams, but the senior leadership didn't understand that and did not make exceptions. I found another position doing similar work for another company and started 3 weeks after my final day at T. The new company has fewer than 1000 people, for comparison.

So here are some of my takeaways, in case someone with a long career at AT&T might be thinking about making the jump, or who might have it forced on them.

  1. Surprising that this is the first one, but honestly it's such a difference that I wanted to call it out: I have not opened Powerpoint once since I left T. At T, powerpoint was basically the language of business. We wasted so many cycles "making a deck" to try to communicate to the ever-changing field of senior leadership that I probably spent the plurality of my time in Powerpoint vs. any other program. I got a new laptop at my new job, and realized as I deleted the pre-placed icon from the desktop that I've never once used Powerpoint. We use Teams, sometimes demos, sometimes a mockup or diagram...but I've never had to "make a deck."

  2. It really hit me just how many people at AT&T did literally nothing of value. This is not a dig against most colleagues, but rather just that significant subset who didn't have discernible skills, so got placed into positions to just spin their bureaucratic wheels but otherwise stay out of the way. I recall two dozen names off the top of my head that were just there to make people jump through hoops, document workflow (for no followup reason), design a new process that was jettisoned as soon as they moved somewhere else, or just attend meetings and throw in their two cents without really contributing. Outside of T, there are people of various skill and contribution levels, but nobody whose job is simply to fly under the radar. When I read stories about T employees logging in and leaving their laptops in lockers, or sitting in the cafeteria watching TV, it makes me glad to know that where I'm at now, everybody is giving a fair day's work without making work for others.

  3. Leadership at AT&T is toxic. I'm not just talking the Stankey/Stephenson types, who, yes, have ruined the company through unfathomable incompetence. I'm talking the people in the mid-level, director-like positions and above. Almost all (not all) of them at T seemed like they got there based on the Peter Principle or otherwise nodded their head enough. Only in the beginning of my career in the late 1990s did I feel any executive director or above at T (SBC at the time) was there due to being a practitioner of their craft, for being respected, or for being a good manager. And that class began to dwindle as time went on, replaced by hollow, empty suits who could spew buzzwords and claim empty victories by cherry picking their numbers. It's like an ever-shifting field of grifters.

  4. The hiring process at ATT is irreparably broken. I was a hiring manager, and trying to get someone competent in the door was inexplicably difficult. HR gatekept candidates and had no concept of the hard and soft skills we needed. We got sent batches of candidates who faked their resumes, faked their interviews (even before AI was big), faked their legal ability to work in the U.S., and so on. There were times that it took 9 months to find an entry level programmer because HR kept whiffing. HR gets a lot of flack everywhere, but at T, I believed they were truly a cesspool of rejects.

Maybe I'll think of more but these hit me just this week. There are things I miss about T, mostly dealing with colleagues, but these are definitely things I do not miss! The day-to-day stress and friction they cause isn't always evident when you're in the middle of it. Only after the ATT shackles are thrown off do you realize how bad of an environment it can be!


Stand up for yourself

Everyone knows that layoffs are coming and the company is restructuring. We also know that WF has no qualms about doing so ethically or unethically. The question is, why aren't we doing everything we can to fight back? The company doesn't care if you get displaced and lose your severance. Trying to play the games leadership makes is only going to hurt everyone in the long run.

Newsflash, you're out of a job. It's no longer a matter of "if" but "when". So you can't save your package or your income here. But what you can do is document everything, practice malicious compliance, and report what you see to your local bureaus/attorney and make the restructuring process as slow and painful for the company as possible. Go to the press and submit anonymous information even.

Because if you got by the mentality of "at least it wasn't me" otherwise, then guess what. You're still going to end up laid off and then come here to complain about how "it's not fair." At least this way it forces leadership to think twice about the battles they pick. And maybe, just maybe it buys you and everyone else some time to get ahead of the curb before they start firing soon instead of complaining constantly, not doing anything about it, and then wonder why things are still toxic here.


A warning for anyone considering Chevron

I want to say something that might help someone avoid the mistake I made. I bought into all the hype about how great this company was, how it looked amazing on a resume, how lucky I was to be here. Friends and family reinforced that constantly. So despite years of bad management, a toxic environment, and watching good colleagues suffer the same fate, I stayed. I wasted so much time. If even one person reads this and decides to think twice before joining, then saying this was worth it.


How do you deal with a toxic work group?

My Wells Fargo group is made of seven people, in which five are women and two are men. Of the women, four of them are full-blown Karens and very unpleasant to work with. The remaining woman keeps to herself and has been looking for an internal transfer for months. Of the four Karens, and reason for the group toxicology, not sure if the Karens like each other or see it as to their advantage to act as a group as they like people to think they do.


PIP first or surplus first?

Anyone else feel like management has been trying to build a case against them after a reorg?

My org has gotten really toxic. I’ve been hearing PIP talk, but I honestly don’t think they have enough to put me on one yet. My past mid-year and year-end reviews have been strong, my attendance has been good except for a few system issues, and I know my job well. It just feels like leadership decided they don’t want me around anymore.

If you’re in this situation, is it more likely they’ll eventually fire you for performance, or would you end up getting surplused first? Or maybe a PIP is a way to set the ground for a surplus (as a way to tell HR “Look, he is on a PIP because he doesn’t work very well, so he is our chosen duck to target for the layoff).
Curious if anyone has gone through something similar. Is it possible to fight it?


The Wells Invasion

I’d like to get everyone’s thoughts on Wells Fargo leaders that are taking over in technology. Starting with Steve Hagerman down as old BB&T and SunTrust leaders are pushed out they’re being replaced by folks from Wells Fargo. They keep hiring their friends from Wells for HUGE money and most of them are getting exceptions to work remotely even they are enforcing the policy that all new hires need to be in a Truist office. They seem quite toxic leading by fear and are turning our culture into the terrible culture they created and left behind at Wells.


Wells Fargo is approaching breaking the record

...for longest period of time that a public company has posted consistent YOY headcount declines.

I got curious this morning about just how unusual the situation at Wells is, and decided to do some digging. Based on the information I can find, here's some of the existing records for longest consecutive streaks of corporate downsizing:

IBM went through 8 years of downsizing from 1985 to 1993 as the tech market moved from mainframes to personal computers, shrinking from a high of 405k employees to 219k by 1993.

General Motors went through 7 years of YOY headcount reductions from 2002 to 2009 as a result of foreign competition and shrinking market share, up until their bankruptcy in the wake of the global financial crisis and bailout by the US government.

Blackberry/RIM posted 5 straight years of headcount cuts from 2011 to 2016 as a result of competition from iPhone and Android, finishing in 2016 with 25% of the employees they started with.

Wells is currently running a streak from 2019 to today, blowing past Blackberries record and in line with GM. Given the CEO's public statements, we're also on track to beat IBM as well. Don't you feel proud to work here?

(My point was this post was just to let folks know, if this feels like an overwhelmingly toxic place to work, you are not alone. The situation at Wells is extraordinarily, historically bad. This is not normal)


Being laid off was like leaving a toxic partner

I've been thinking about this a lot. Working at BNY was like being in a bad relationship. Constantly stressed and unhappy but I stayed because it was familiar and the money was okay. Then one day I was let go and it was terrifying at first. But then the severance arrived and I had time to rest, to think, and to remember who I was before that place wore me down. And eventually I found something new where I'm actually treated well. In the end, leaving turned out to be the best possible thing for me.


Wishing all you homies the best

Sorry for the linkedin slop. I'm not about that life on main but yall have been such a huge part of my professional career I have to say goodbye somewhere.

I wasn't surprised when Nike laid me off this time around. 4 months parental leave + sabbatical on the horizon is a tough pill for a declining company.

Anyways. After 6 weeks and 7 or 8 interviews I have my next job lined up. Similar pay, bigger title, bigger responsibilities. Everyone works in the same timezone and the office is full of smiles. I guess I do have to start wearing pants to work though.

I think I'm finally ready to close this toxic chapter of my life. It has been a long while since I was proud to work at Nike. But I can say I've always been proud to call all you OGs my coworker. I'll always fondly remember our golden years of competence.

I'm headed to the other coast though so I'll probably never see any of you again. 🫡
Look out for yourselves. If you start thinking your skills might be getting rusty brush off your resume and move on. The couch is comfy but Nike hates seniority.


Is anyone else making plans to quit before the end of the year?

I'm not only looking to leave EM, but the entire O&G industry. I can't find a single company that's better than this place, and I'm so tired of all the uncertainty, cyclical nature of the industry, toxicity, and everything else that comes with working here. I'm so done with it.


Has anyone considered quitting before severance date?

For those promised a severance package towards the end of 2027, are you considering leaving/retiring before the end of this year? Just to escape Polaris, workplace toxicity and overall dysfunction the company is sinking into further each day ?
Despite the promised payout, does your sanity seem like too high a price to pay in order to receive the severance/settlement ?
(Also, what if they keep moving the end date later than year end 2027??)


Exxon’s Exodus: Employees Have Finally Had Enough of Its Toxic Culture

Source: By Kevin Crowley, Bloomberg

The 140-year-old oil company is making more money than ever. Yet the pandemic exposed deep cultural problems—and talent is fleeing.

Shortly after Exxon Mobil Corp. lost its battle with an activist investor last year, an executive named Bill Keillor decided to give his department a morale boost. It had been a difficult year and a half for Exxon employees. Covid-19 and plunging crude prices had led to halted salary increases, reduced benefits, and, for the first time in decades, thousands of layoffs. Anxiety was coursing through the organization.

So Keillor, whose title is global IT vice president, and his leadership team organized an awards ceremony to take place at Exxon’s Houston campus. They posted an invite on Yammer, an internal social network, with Keillor’s face cropped onto a tuxedo. With many employees still working remotely, most tuned in via Zoom.

Keillor started by thanking everyone for their hard work over the past year, presented awards to three top-performing teams, and then opened the floor to questions. It was at this point things started to unravel, according to four people present who spoke on condition of anonymity. The software developers, data analysts, and technicians who run Exxon’s vast computing network, which helps the company manage everything from drilling wells to pipeline flows, were in no mood to celebrate. Emboldened by the virtual format, they began firing off tough questions. They wanted to know if there would be more layoffs, whether remote working would continue after the pandemic, and whether Exxon was willing to raise pay to the level of major tech companies.

To an outside observer, the scene might have appeared like a slightly tense version of your average corporate town hall. But within Exxon, famous for its top-down, buttoned-up, authoritarian culture, where employees rarely challenge their superiors, and certainly not in an open forum, the moment had the strong whiff of rebellion. As Keillor bristled, other managers stepped in to take some questions, deflecting attention from the boss. But eventually, Keillor had had enough and snapped.

If you want to be a “hotshot” and triple your pay working for Amazon, then go right ahead, the people recall him saying. “Good luck to you.”

Rather than be humbled by the scolding, staffers began circulating memes mocking the event in private chat groups, which rapidly spread across the company. One depicted a long-term career at Exxon as a car hurtling off a highway. Another compared the awards ceremony to a piece of tape used to patch a leaking barrel of water. Others suggested it was about time employees take Keillor up on his advice and quit.

A year and a half later, even as its stock surges again and Exxon makes more money than it has in its 140-year history, the company has experienced the highest attrition since its merger with Mobil in 1999. Of the 12,000 departures globally in the past two years, less than half were from layoffs. “Like nearly every company, attrition increased in the last two years, but we don’t see that as a long-term trend,” Exxon said in a statement. “Importantly, we are seeing good results when hiring top talent for roles throughout the company, at entry-level and for senior executive positions.”

But a Bloomberg Businessweek investigation involving interviews with more than 40 current and former employees (many of whom requested anonymity because Exxon hasn’t authorized them to speak publicly), as well as reviews of dozens of internal documents, reveals one overriding reason talent is fleeing: a culture that’s increasingly out of step with the world around it. Those interviewed describe an organization trapped in amber, whose insular and fear-based culture—once a beacon of corporate America—has become a drag on innovation, risk taking, and career satisfaction. Although many expressed pride at working for an industry leader, they were also frustrated by how slow it was to invest in some of the energy industry’s biggest breakthroughs over the past decade, including shale oil and low-carbon technologies, making it a place where the best and brightest no longer want to spend their best years. “I was bored at my job,” says Avery Smith, who earned more than $100,000 a year as a data scientist right after graduating from college and quit last year, echoing what many other former employees told Businessweek. “I was pretty fed up with not innovating.”

Exxon’s performance ranking system, which pits employees against each other, dominates the day to day. Subordinates are told not to speak out against their bosses in meetings for fear of being placed at the bottom of the rank and pushed out. Employees are reluctant to raise problems or speak freely about environmental issues. Senior managers too often promote people who look and sound like themselves at the expense of technical experts willing to deliver hard messages, and some employees of color say they’ve been marginalized. “Agreeability to senior leadership has become more important than capability,” says one executive who left the company last year after two decades. “Unfortunately this accelerated during the pandemic.”

Exxon spokesperson Amy von Walter rejects those characterizations. “The idea that ExxonMobil’s culture is what these employees say it is doesn’t hold water for two reasons: how many people join this company each year and how long people stay,” she wrote in an email. “No culture is perfect and it’s far too easy to take a few data points and paint with a broad brush, but that doesn’t produce an accurate portrait.” (In response to the Keillor episode, von Walter says Exxon encourages candid workplace conversations, “although we may not get it right every time.”)

But CultureX, an organization out of MIT that evaluates corporate culture based on Glassdoor reviews, says these problems run so deep that Exxon now ranks below industry benchmarks for 143 of the 196 cultural issues it measures. According to CultureX co-founder Charlie Sull, innovation, collaboration, and psychological safety fell far below those of oil industry competitors, whereas pay and benefits ranked above average. Exxon, he says, appears to be using remuneration and perks “to compensate for a culture that faces significant challenges with toxicity.”

Exxon, which traces its roots to John D. Rockefeller’s Standard Oil, is used to being public enemy No. 1. It’s incurred the wrath of politicians and civil society for being too powerful, too profitable, and too polluting. But rarely has it suffered such discontent within its own ranks. “Upper management doesn’t like to hear bad news, so to stay at Exxon long term, you have to drink the Kool-Aid,” says Dar-Lon Chang, a mechanical engineer who left the company in 2019 after more than a decade. “This doesn’t sit well with younger people and especially those concerned about the climate crisis.”

Since losing the campaign to Engine No. 1, a tiny activist investor firm, Exxon has reformed its climate strategy. Under Chief Executive Officer Darren Woods, it’s pledged more ambitious emissions reduction targets, increased spending on clean energy, and elevated its low-carbon division to the top of the corporation. It’s even made a series of rare external hires including Chief Financial Officer Kathy Mikells from Diageo Plc and low-carbon head Dan Ammann, who previously ran General Motors Co.’s autonomous vehicle startup. It’s condensed 11 businesses into three and is on track to cut costs by $9 billion by 2023.

By financial standards, Woods’s plan is working. The stock is up 60% this year, ahead of its major peers, and closing in on a record high. But if Exxon has any shot at dominating the volatile energy transition over the next century, it will need to attract and hold on to the next generation of scientists, engineers, and technologists. “We can talk all day about low carbon,” says one recently departed Exxon executive. “But first we’ve got to decarbonize the culture.”

https://governorswindenergycoalition.org/exxons-exodus-employees-have-finally-had-enough-of-its-toxic-culture/


Embarrassing Company

It’s sad to say, but we’re back to where we started when JD was here. The environment is toxic, the directors are promoted by their friends who are at the top. The vibe around campus is depressing and we have no new innovations. Marketing is just throwing celebrities in Ads - with slogans written by 12 year olds. What happened to ‘getting back to sport’? Step foot out of Oregon and you’ll see people don’t give an f about Nike.


Enough with the nonesense from certain people.

Enough with the nonesense from certain people.
No one wants to hear it anymore, no one wants to participate in it, no one likes you, no one likes your constant negativity, no one likes your entitelment, no one likes your doom and gloom, we are tired of your nonsense.

So Just Stop. Your continued efforts to stoke bitterness, lower morale and cause drama are no longer acceptable.


Would I be making a mistake if I left now?

I joined just four months ago but I hate it already. I got lucky and another company just offered me a role that pays a little less but is much closer to what I actually want and hopefully comes with less toxicity. I am grateful for the option, but I am wondering how much it'll be an issue for my resume in the future to leave a job after such a short time.


Are you a Producer or Consumer

There’s so much angst and misdirected frustration on this forum. This is an investment company. Not IT, not Distribution, not “Architecture”.

Only 10% of associates are investment staff. They generate the profits. They make the money.

Rest all are support staff. They consume money generated by investments. No matter how vital your job is, you are not making any money for the firm. You are a cost center.

Cost centers get cut when profit machine slows. Profit centers cannot be cut without shrinking profits further. That is called business.

Get used to it. Or go work at a farm.