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Barely holding on!

As this is all going on, and with the stress, anxiety and uncertainty of will we have a job come a month or 2, my people leader is production! production! production! How are we to stay focused with these chats and emails going out about metrics and audits when inside all of us are stressed and nervous? Beyond frustrating!


Something big is about to happen at T-Mobile

We got supervisor’s personally calling customer care representatives on their cell telling them that they have overtime avail Monday. They saying it is super secretive to the point they don’t even want to relay this info about overtime on tmobiles own systems and of course no one is suppose to talk about it. Anyone know what sh-t is about to hit the roof at this company?


5 stages of grief

Denial. Anger. Bargaining. Depression. Acceptance.
I have gone through all of them.
At this point, I am going to sit back, get myself some popcorn, and watch this sh-t show go down.
Even if I am no longer with Centene in the next several months, I will continue to follow this saga, simply for learning and entertainment purposes.


I can’t be the only one, right?

I can’t be the only person having an incredibly difficult time focusing on work right now.

I’ve invested nearly 10 years here, earned multiple “Exceeds Expectations” reviews, and always taken pride in being a strong contributor wherever I work. But with so much uncertainty surrounding what’s next, I find myself struggling to stay motivated. The constant unknowns are starting to interfere with my ability to focus on the day-to-day work that’s expected of me.

And we will have over 3 weeks before we hear anything about these VSPs


Regional Construction Layoffs?

Anyone here if Regional Construction are going to be laying off specialists? Just heard today that starting in September, CMO will be doing all Admin tasks (Construction Activation, As-Built, FIR, Etc.) on all Residential jobs (SDU/MDU) and Specialist will be doing all admin tasks for Commercial jobs. Concerning as we have many people that are 100% Resi and now if they do 0 admin work what are they going to be doing or needed for?


Unpopular Opinion: They're Trying

I get it. This is hard. Nobody wants to see their team shrink, nobody wants uncertainty, and nobody signs up for a job hoping to navigate a VSP or a RIF (This is not a layoff folks).

But I've been watching this forum and I want to offer a different perspective, one I don't see getting much airtime.

Companies don't offer voluntary separation packages because they hate their employees. They do it because the alternative is involuntary. A VSP with real severance, extended benefits, and time to plan your next move is genuinely a sign of a company trying to do right by people, even when the business decision behind it is painful. They could have just surprised 20% of us with RIF notices on August 1st. You can disagree with the strategy and still recognize the humanity in how it's being executed.

The personal attacks on leaders here are something else entirely. These are human beings making decisions in a brutally difficult macro environment. One that no one fully controls. Venting is understandable. But some of what I'm seeing crosses a line that doesn't reflect well on us, not on them.

Some of what I have seen has honestly made me realize there are areas where this company can RIF, with some of the narrow sighted and uninformed nonsense I have seen these past couple of weeks.

We're professionals. We can be honest about how hard this is without burning the place down on the way out.


Total confusion.

So I was part of the group on March 22 that was RIF’d but then forced to stay working until end of June and then quickly extended until end of August. It seems like the people RIF’d today are done as of today. I want that deal! Trying to stay working on the titanic is brutal and not good for mental health. Who the he-l is making these decisions?


I've been thinking about leaving for a while

Then I did some research. I looked at every company in our industry that I might apply to and I found they all have the same problems we do. Same complaints on the forums, same issues with management, and same uncertainty. So what's the point? I'd be jumping from one sinking ship to another. For now, I'm staying with what I know.


At what point this week can we be at peace?

This uncertainty is ki-ling me. Folks on this thread have talked about 13% of the workforce being RIF'd, multiple teams expected to be impacted and most of it being initiated today. Yet, not many have said a word about receiving that uncomfortable meeting invite. Just 1-2 people have confirmed getting it.

At what stage in this week can we breathe a sigh or relief? When will we know if we survived this round or not? Or were people simply trolling or exaggerating the numbers?

The uncertainty and anxious waiting period is worse than just knowing you're impacted!!


Is anyone else making plans to quit before the end of the year?

I'm not only looking to leave EM, but the entire O&G industry. I can't find a single company that's better than this place, and I'm so tired of all the uncertainty, cyclical nature of the industry, toxicity, and everything else that comes with working here. I'm so done with it.


Can I be fire for looking for another role?

With all the doubt around the campus I sent my resume for a role. Turns out the role, through an agency, is with my team and the agent sent my resume to my manager. She wants to meet me Monday, can I be fired for looking for other work in this time of uncertainty?


Seeing a shiiiitload of LinkedIn retirements/ Surpluses

Seeing a shiiiitload of LinkedIn retirements/ Surpluses

Quickly losing track of how many LinkedIn posts from now ex-AT&T employees across the board, Retirement or Surplus layoffs. One thing the company will find out soon is how Morale will plummet even Further once the remaining survivors are in a constant state of uncertainty, apathy, disengagement, quiet quitting and throwing each other under the bus to stay on payroll. Just look at other companies that have already done massive cuts and are at historically low morale among employees. Newer employees that can leave will already be eyeing the Exit to get out on their own terms and the older employees will be stuck praying for a buyout— but all will feel like they are next on the chopping block. Good luck getting employees to give a F#CK about the company when they already feel that they are inevitably up next. As more employees lose faith in the future of the company you will also see a wave of Executives sprinting towards the exits cashing out their Stocks, not IF but when…. AT&T is circling down the toilet bowl 💩 🚽


Precision Parcel Logistics Lays Off Nearly 100 Workers

Precision Parcel Logistics (PCLG) laid off nearly 100 employees in mid-June. The company operated as an Amazon Delivery Service Partner in Paducah. PCLG owner Cody Bauhs announced the company's dissolution due to "personal reasons." Many employees learned of the closure through an email, causing shock and uncertainty. The West Kentucky Workforce Board is offering rapid response services to assist the affected workers.

Paducah, Kentucky

https://www.wpsdlocal6.com/news/nearly-100-employees-laid-off-from-local-delivery-company-former-employees-left-with-unanswered-questions/article_6085d27a-2ac6-42cf-b73c-a96f4cc15307.html


What is Everyone's Plan?

We are stuck with "her" until 2028. The next MP will probably be dopey david or some other insane clown worse than PP. So what is everyone doing to keep their sanity while trying to plan ahead? Are you all trying to just stick it out and hope something changes for the better by 2028? Actively looking for another job in this horrible job market? Or, trying to stay under the radar until retirement? I have a feeling that the LP offer in september is not going to get as many sign ups as they hope. They will then use this as a means to pivot to go public sometime around when PP leaves. All under the guise that we don't have enough buy ins to keep the pyramid err uh "partnership" afloat. 1450 FAs walked away last year, a new EDJ record. That should tell you something.


For those familiar with programs like the VSP

Is it standard practice that some "applications" may be denied? As in, you could accept the VSP terms only to be rejected anyway? My manager made our team aware of this possibility without coming right out and saying it. He said "not everyone will get accepted" which I found out.

Obviously Centene stands to benefit from seeing how many people will bite before giving them the green light. They benefit, again, from having a final headcount by 7/2 so that they don't accidentally over-correct. Not that it makes much sense to offer the VSP to so many employees that Centene could end up needing to hire people when all's said and done, but clearly leadership isn't the brightest...

This is the first I've ever heard of one of these programs. I'm trying to gauge whether Centene's being extra shifty with the "your application may not be approved" sh-t, or if that's standard.


Who is safe?

Certain employee groups are ineligible for the VSP “ “.

What are the specialized roles and core initiatives that would be “safe”

Are new team members exempt from the upcoming layoff or just not eligible for the VSP?

Senior executives- VP and up?

Some departments have been laying off staff for months now. Was that a separate initiative?


What to do if boss puts meeting invite on 6/17?

What does everyone recommend we do if our boss puts a meeting invite on 6/17? Does that mean we are toast? Has anyone considered taking PTO or blocking off their calendar day on 6/17 with more important meetings? I am just going to say that our application has an urgent security concern that needs to be addressed or it risks being shutdown. It is a joke how this is being handled at our company.