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RTO Blues

I despise coming in 4 days a week. I get to wake up 1.5 hours early and drive for an hour, for what? I get to fake social interaction with distant department members who don't want to be here just like me. I get to spend $20 on parking. I get to spend immeasurable amounts of money maintaining a sh---y professional wardrobe that doesn't get used outside of work.
What benefit does anyone gain from this besides BNY having an excuse to lay some people off?

Before the shill bots come out of the woodwork, prior to COVID, my team was 2 days a week. There's no RTO, it's just increased. I'm not returning to anything.

3 days a week wasn't bad, I'd at least have Friday at home to look forward to, but now to get that I have to ruin my evening on Sunday by dreading going in on Monday. My life has been remarkably more miserable since 4 days started.

WFA days would be a brief reprieve when it got particularly bad on occasion, but they ruined those too.

I don't really know the purpose of this post besides to vent.


Wfh Posture

Found this out from a reliable source

Workplace Excellence Compliance Changes effective 4/1

  • Planned communications: 3/10 employee email

  • Anyone in an assigned office - updated expectation is 4 days in the office

  • Everyone else - expectation is still 3 days in the office, but no consecutive WFH days. Friday/Monday is considered two consecutive days (so in office Mon-Tues-Thurs; or Mon-Wed-Fri etc)

  • When in office, expectation you work a full day in that office

  • External new hires - expectation is 4 days a week in the office


Australian state to give employees legal right to work from home - California next ?

The Australian state of Victoria said on ​Wednesday it will launch legislation ‌to give employees the legal right to work from home two days ​per week. The laws, that ​are due to come into effect ⁠on September 1, will allow ​anyone with the ability to work ​from home to do so, regardless of the size of their workplace.
“Work from ​home works for families, because ​it saves time and money and it ‌gets ⁠more parents working,” Victoria Premier Jacinta Allan said in a statement.

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/australian-state-plans-give-employees-legal-right-work-home-2026-03-04/


“Reclassification”

I don’t know how Macy’s “reclassifying” some people’s positions affects store employees, but everyone who was hired as a “flex position” for corporate side of things has to return to office 4 days a week. They’re doing construction of the office floors at Herald Square in NYC, but what are they changing exactly? They’re adding assigned desks and taking away conference rooms. Have a meeting you need to attend and there’s no meeting rooms available? Their advice was to just go walk through the store and take your meeting.
They’re offering 0 incentive for employees that can completely do their jobs remotely to return to the office 8 hours a day 4 days a week. They want us to “cowork in a creative environment” while being surrounded by beige walls, desks/cubes with no privacy, fighting over meeting rooms just so they can justify having all of that space and its cost.
Snacks? Better coffee? Maybe some other colors than red and beige and white and black? Nope! But come into the office because we are watching you!
They also do not consider the amount of employees they have working there that do not live within NYC. Have wages raised? No, but the cost of transportation sure has from the Long Island railroad to NJ transit to the MTA subway and bus fares.
I don’t know that this company is gonna last much longer. They really only have the 100th year of the parade this year going for them.


AI job shrinkage

Did you know that United is licensing AI software from Amazon? This software allows call center representatives in other countries to speak, and it alters the tonality and accent of the voice. This is to prevent American citizens from knowing they are speaking with a representative overseas.

The AI takeover to move jobs overseas is already happening. You just don’t know it yet.


Remotes ARE being trageted for layoffs now..

I've posted about this a few times and get downvoted/laughed at but I'm telling you, full remotes are being targeted now. It was only a matter of time... Dell has made it blatantly clear that they want ALL employees local to an office - as in ALL employees go INTO an office - and that remotes are not eligible for promotions or internal movement. Which puts remotes in a literal dead end job. I 100% guarentee they will cap remotes raises to 2% and 50% bonus's sooner than later, as well.

I had my 1x1 w/ my boss/sr director the other day and I asked what the IBP was. He didn't know for sure but, mentioned he laid off a few people (3) under him and saw the bonus payout for them - which was 100% - but, stated that they were all remotes and that was the primary driving factor for laying them off.

According to what he told me, those 3 were good at their job but was told by higher ups and/or HR to remove 3 remotes that reported to him. I didn't know any of them as they weren't on my team but, long story short.. .they were laid off for being remote.

We have a great relationship with each other so I asked out of curiosity if remotes are being targeted more for layoffs. He didn't say yes or no but in a round about way basically said that yes they are, and has heard from execs that the "plan" is to reduce raises and bonus's for them next year. Basically an attempt to force resignation. Exceptions will likely be made for those who are incredibly vital to an org but otherwise, the plan is to slowly get rid of remotes.

If you are full remote but live near enough to an office, I'd recommend switching your sh-t to in office versus remote... Make the drive or relocate if you value your job because remotes are the ones who will be first to go on teams when layoffs happen.


From the manager's guide for dealing with RTO

Use this guide to help you manage team members who are not meeting the expectations of the office work goal and who are in a hub location. Holding your team members accountable to this goal is one of the expectations of your People Leader Goal. You should seek further guidance from HR Advisory Services (HRAS) if coaching the employee as described in this guide doesn’t result in improvement.

Note: This People Leader resource provides guidance regarding ongoing performance management relating to the office work goal. For information relating to the office work goal in relation to the year-end performance review process, please refer to our Measuring performance: People Leader resource.

Details

As a leader, we trust you to lead your teams with empathy while ensuring you set clear and consistent expectations. Be mindful that the office work goal may be challenging for some. Listen and provide the guidance needed for your team to achieve their office work goal.

U.S.: As a reminder, medical accommodations or flexible work arrangements may be applicable depending on the reason someone is not fulfilling the office work goal.

Europe: For leaders with team members in Europe, approved flexible/remote work arrangements and exceptions may also be applicable depending on the reason someone is not fulfilling the office work goal.

You have access to a dashboard to see how frequently your team members come into the office. This data should be considered, among other factors, when assessing team members’ performance with respect to the office work goal, such as observations of a team member’s work location (in person or via Teams video), vacation, illness, work travel, etc. For more information regarding the dashboard and its metrics, see the people leader resource.

Considerations

When using the dashboard to assess your team member’s in-office work, you are expected to assess the full picture of their performance, collaboration, and in-office presence, including but not limited to the following considerations:

Timing. When was the office work goal in effect for your team member? Because hub transitions are taking place on a rolling basis, team members should only be held accountable to the goal once they have an assigned work location and are directed to work onsite three or more days per week.

Absences. Was your team member on vacation, sick and safe leave (SSL), or an approved leave of absence (continuous or intermittent) during the relevant time period? Don’t count approved absences against your team member.
Note: team members on an approved leave of absence are excluded from the dashboard while on leave.

Work travel. Did your team member travel for business during the relevant time period? Don’t count work travel against your team member, even if they weren’t working from a U.S. Bank location.

Flexible work arrangement (FWA)/reasonable accommodation (U.S.). Did your team member have an approved flexible work arrangement or reasonable accommodation that allows them to work from the office less frequently or not at all during the relevant time? If your team member’s in-office work (or lack thereof) is consistent with an approved FWA or reasonable accommodation, they are meeting their office work goal.
Note: Team members on an approved FWA or remote work reasonable accommodation and their badge swipe data are excluded from the dashboard while the FWA or reasonable accommodation is in effect.

Approved flexible/remote work arrangement or exception (Europe). Did your team member have a flexible/remote work arrangement or exception request approved that allows them to work from the office less frequently or not at all during the relevant period? If your team member’s in-office work (or lack thereof) is in line with such approved requests, they are meeting their office work goal.

Short-term need. Has your team member requested a short-term need to work remotely? You can approve short-term exceptions (up to two weeks) to the office work goal without additional documentation or approval (for example, a mild illness that does not prevent them from working remotely, temporary transportation challenge, other personal issues, etc.).

Other. Was the team member using a temporary badge or are there other reasons the data in the dashboard may not be accurate?


Another blunder that will be reversed in 5 years

Corporate real estate is under pressure nationwide. Companies are downsizing footprints, unloading space, writing down office valuations. The market is screaming that centralized office demand has structurally changed.

And we’re committing billions to a brand-new headquarters tied to a five-day RTO mandate that the workforce has overwhelmingly pushed back on.

This isn’t vision. It’s denial.

When capital is expensive and the market is shifting toward flexibility, you don’t double down on fixed costs and hope behavior bends to your preference. That’s not leadership. That’s forcing reality to conform to ego.

We’ve already lived through massive strategic swings that were sold as bold and transformative, only to require years of cleanup. At some point, repeating the same pattern stops being bad luck and starts being a decision-making problem.

You can’t build the future of work by anchoring yourself to the past. You can’t demand innovation while ignoring market signals. And you definitely can’t call it culture when the people you’re trying to attract are openly telling you they don’t want it.


Moving states- is it possible to get remote exeception?

Live in NJ, but due to. life circumstances will be moving to TN. Is it possible to ask for an exception to be remote? Been with the company for 4 years and got a promotion recently, if any of that matters. Anyone have any experience or know of others that were in a similar position?


Hours in Office - How many before it counts?

How long does one need to be in the office for it to count as a “day in office”?

I’m not talking hours. I’m talking actual days. My LOB mandates 3 days per week and today is day 4 - I’m trying to get ahead.

Would me showing up at the office for 3 hours on a Friday show today as a “day in office” ?


Layoffs and Contractors

Make this make sense.

We lay off people by requiring them to move to a Hub city at their own expense and reapply for their job (or they are declared surplus/laid off). Then, a year later, they are back as a contractor, and RTO doesn’t apply to contractors.

If it is so darn important to have everyone in an office, why aren’t we ALL in the office? Why doesn’t AT&T thrust their own employees, but is happy to let a third party person have access to the same systems and networks remotely full time?