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Is Your PIP Set Up to Pass or to Fail

When you and your manager have an obviously broken working dynamic, when some people who dislike you influence your manager, when you’re deliberately given assignments designed to rank you , PIP communication itself is firm from day one and their body language shows zero positivity, when they hand you a long list of vague expectations, monitor every move, invade your privacy, and openly discuss your situation with others, and when they assign “coaches” to you just to build a case ... you’re being set up to fail.

But when a manager tells you it’s okay that you were ranked in a new CL and that you can work through it together, when expectations are clear, when documentation is minimal or none, when they protect your privacy, put you on visible projects, give you meaningful roles, and advocate for you .... they’re preparing to pass you.


B2B mangers are going to target people who need help all the time

An email was sent out last night that went to a lot of B2B

Managers are to target reps who “lean” on them to much. This is a grossly obvious tactic to weed out people who ask for help a lot.

We also find it odd that the manager that sent it out is never around. Some employees don’t even know who he is but yet he is their AD

Must be nice to have a job where you don’t have to talk to your reps but want them targeted for asking for help


TL that has been with the company for 13 years and has been in 12 different stores.

A TL just transferred to my store - dude has been with the company for 13 years and has been in 12 different stores. If that's not a red flag, I don't know what is. In his last store he went out on "stress leave" for three months because he said he couldn't "handle the job". If he couldn't handle it there then what makes store leadership think he can handle it here? He's currently on a PIP. He sits in the office on his phone all day. Pals around with his ATL, who also sits in the office with him and they watch Tiktoks together. Why do they keep these kind of people and oust the hard workers by changing their schedules and putting the teams entire work on those people that actually work instead of holding failed leadership accountable?


I can't do this for much longer

After back-to-back meetings about the same things we had meetings about last week and a passive-aggressive ping from a director who can't articulate what he wants, yesterday I was tempted to google "fast food hiring near me." I'm honestly at the point where the simplicity of flipping burgers seems superior to this mess.


My manager acted like I personally offended him after I quit

Didn't speak to me for the entire 10 business days. I already knew I made the right decision to leave, but that just cemented it. Been away for two months and never been happier. Folks, there are places with normal managers and better culture if you're willing to leave your comfort zone.


IBM layoffs upcoming!

IBM will silently laying people off after the stock crash... From what I've seen, this is how they do it:

They suddenly label people as "low performers" (making up stories if they have to) and try to push them into quitting.

They put people on PIPs (1–3 month Performance Improvement Plans) and then fire them. The goal seems to be avoiding severance.

They make your work life miserable until you leave on your own.

If you're thinking about joining IBM, I'd honestly look somewhere else. In my experience, the company doesn't have many interesting projects anymore, and management is pretty bad. Most managers have no clue how to lead or manage teams.

Just my opinion based on what I've seen in this company over the years.


A breakdown of my Oracle managers over 15 years….

Middle Aged white male. No tech skills. No leadership skills. Incompetent and ill advised. Lap dog of VP.
Middle Aged middle eastern woman. No tech skills. She lasted 3 mos in our unit after some type of lying to senior management.
Middle Aged middle eastern man. He had skills. He was competent. He was complimentary. He used my work, commended me on it and than stiffed me for a raise when I got promoted. Not even 1%. Said “talk to HR”.
Middle Aged black woman. No tech skills. Really no computer skills at all. Very much delegated. Loud talker. Tried to be a people person, but that was hard when you’re discriminated against other races.
Middle Aged asian woman. Zero tech skills. Got her job cause she was friends with VP. Had no idea what the role entailed. Literally just stole a check. Did nothing but give friends roles and get friends promoted. Left Oracle to work for start-up.
Middle Aged white male. Came from acquisition. No real tech skills. Only knew the one app that we bought his company for. Totally arrogant. Thought he was more important than everyone and everything. I was light years ahead of him, but our GBU promoted new acquired people over people who had been there. Put him in his place several times and finally was able to get away from him. He actually got promoted. Totally incompetent.
Middle Aged white male. Got promoted to his team. He was on my old team and actually came to Oracle about 11 years after I did. Like many other managers, towed the company line. Absolutely no tech skills. No real skills other than being a yes man and not being healthy. Got promoted to his team, about to accept offer and then ask about the raise and he said there was no raise. “VP wouldn’t approve it….” Sorry, I can’t help you.

On my last day at Oracle, I scheduled an email to go to the VP, my manager and the stiff director of our department. Telling them all what I thought. For the VP, I broke her off a huge piece. She was a lousy VP for many years, stealing money, overbilled the federal govt, stole, and was an even lousier human being. I said, “how pathetic of a person are you to not even give me a 1% raise after I have put in 15 years at this company for you?...you are truly pathetic….you don’t care about anyone but yourself and your little circle.

That woman will leave a company she worked at for like 40 years with no friends and no one who will be sorry she is gone. In fact, many have a number of interesting stories on how she “climbed” her way to the top.

It’s sad. It really is never about the product or the processes…it’s solely about the people and those that are morally and mentally corrupt and should not be around other human beings as they are a direct threat to their well-being.


Our own copilot told me I should quit...

...did this on an external AI too but translated all of my annual reviews into files, told it to parse them, told it my salary, & asked how hosed & stifled I am here compared to market. It told me not only to leave immediately (both Claude & Grok) but that while delivering more & more every year & outworking everyone else around me I've been deliberately sidelined, pushed around, & my personality used against me by my bosses in their responses to hold me down. That i'm leaving $50k/yr on the table & over the time I've been here have missed-out on $200k in earnings. No wonder I've felt so squeezed by this place & am barely surviving. Everyone else in my role & field is ki-ling it compared to me. This place su-ks & has stolen almost 10 years of career & growth from me.

I can't even get my boss on a regularly scheduled 1:1 for 15min to ESTABLISH a 1:3:5 for me after 2 years. He flaked yesterday while 'working' from India.

Combined with recently being told by my director to fudge numbers on Clarity & that my SSL usage is being tracked & used against me for (carrot dangle) prospective promotions - fu-k this place.

Let's not even discuss how I'm being split between two teams this year & how exhausting that is. They LOVE to keep me dangling in the wind moving from team to team to team - because I'll do it & can do it, I don't push back (thinking eventually SURELY some good has to come of this for me). I never get anything, all I get is hosed & progressively poorer, stolen from in lost earnings by this place. Sc--wed over at EOY in bonus while these shady executives hoard it all for themselves.

Anywhere else I'd be a senior engineer IC or manager by now. My loyalty has cost me a real career & major earnings.

I'm a swe earning under 100k after 8 fu--ing years. I'm done sulking & being a loser about it though. Now I'm on a mission.

Good job blowing me off manager, you just lost an employee.


Too much unhappiness in Manila office

I came across this site and want to share the situation in FIS.
Our office reports to managers in Bangaluru India.

The managers are very rude with our teams. They talk very loudly in the team meetings.
The FIS Managers lack basic management skills. They want us to call them sir and madam.
No one is willing to join FIS here in Philippines, though there are open positions. I have worked for 3-4 years and looking for job outside FIS.


The new Mid-Year Review Process

On my he-l. This new Mid-Year review ratings system is an absolute joke! I’ve never seen a more subjective rating system. You can put all the evidence and ecards and global recognition you want in your favor and if your manager wants to take a dump on your career this is a great hall pass! When the evidence listed by the manager points to an exceeds or at the least a meets and the manager just discriminates because they’re an ableist narcissist. Good lord… never in my long career have I ever seen a company circle the drain like this. The bank is asking to be sued via class action AGAIN for discrimination! They treat certain people differently than others based on their own intrinsic biases and never has it been clearer!


The less you know, the further you go at Cisco

The people who rise through the ranks aren't the ones who know what they're doing. They're the ones who barely understand their own jobs. It would be funny to watch if it wasn't so infuriating. Competence isn't valued, ignorance and good a-s-kissing skills are.


In case you haven’t figured it out yet

Humana, in case you haven’t figured it out yet, we do not like you.

If you would simply recognize those very bad middle level leaders in Associate Director and Director roles that pushed out some of us extremely good employees and fire those bad leaders, then maybe we would stop filing lawsuits against you, and stop bad mouthing you to the press and general public.

Get rid of those je-ks, those bad leaders, and we will relent. Make sure somehow it gets back to is when it is done. Thank you.


Bring back the good managers

With all the restructurings, layoffs, people leaving on their own, we've lost all the knowledgeable managers who cared about both their people and the company (and yes, it's possible). The ones we have left should be shown the door immediately and 3M should try really hard to bring some of those we lost back if this place is to improve in any way.


Is your store like this too ???

Our store manager has her favorite minions
Calling them “sweetie”, “baby” “honey” and talking to them like they are her own children——-weird

Store H.R. literally drinks coffee all day, every day. And gossips with her clique.
When someone who is not in the clique walks near them, it suddenly gets quiet.

Support team is a clique. Same thing when you get closer to them in the hallway or office it suddenly gets quiet

Store manager MAYBE working 35 hours a week, and usually closer to 33, 9-4 Monday to Friday, lots of PTO and time off.

HR works 7-2, or 8-3, and never works Saturday or Sunday. Never.Gives little to no information or help, never correctes missing punch, delayed in responding to schedule changes or issues


Stress

How do you navigate working for a leader who consistently deflects responsibility when things go wrong, portrays themselves as the person holding the organization together, and repeatedly singles out one or two employees for criticism until they eventually they leave or get fired as a cause of this set up. Abusive or demeaning language in private but present themselves as professional in public. How do I protect myself from this gaslighting? Very shameful.


The Corporate skill nobody teaches…

Can someone teach me how to be a yes-man and boost the egos of unskilled, manipulative managers? Apparently, that's the skill needed by TPD Associate Director. Please for once can they let go Boston AD …

Unfortunately, I'm not good at that, so they'll probably let me go.


The worst way to handle layoffs

If you want to see bad management, look at how layoffs are being handled. One day would have been enough, but they've dragged it out for the whole week, which to some of us feels like forever. For days we wake up stressed wondering if today is the day. Why's that necessary? Outside of just being cruel for the sake of being cruel.


I've had enough

I need to leave, and I need to leave now. I can't do this anymore. Every day I have to listen to people who don't know my job tell me how to do it and give me terrible advice while they're at it. They make me to do things wrong despite my protests and when it fails, I'm the one who takes the blame. I'm so done with this sh-t.


Still at Kyndryl and hating it

I know it sounds odd considering the state of the job market, but I keep hoping I'll be on the layoff list. I'm too chickenshit to quit, so having them make the decision for me would be perfect. I was excited when we were spun-off, imagining great things, but I was brought back to reality fast. Now all I want is to be out of here.


How not to end a "you are being laid off" conversation

Got laid off in November. My supervisor set up a calendar invite at 5am, with no title or agenda. No secret what was coming. She told me at 8am that I was being laid off, etc etc. But, the highlight of the entire 5 minute meeting was at the end when she said to me, "Have a nice day".

She could not lead a bunch of people to McDonalds. Even if she had gift certificates.


CEO Letter of "Corporate Responsibility Report" B$

https://newsroom.intel.com/corporate/ceo-letter-2025-26-intel-corporate-responsibility-report

As always, Intel CEO (or Mr. Ronery) is just full of word-salads, nothing in this letter mentions anything actionable nor shows any results of actions taken in the last 1+ year of his leadership. Just a lot of marketing talk and tries to show a tough stance on whatever "Corporate responsibility" is at Intel.

This guy is a clown along with the clowns he has hired from other companies (qualcomm and co). I'm glad i left this Circus when i had the chance, Intel is a sinking ship and will continue to lose leadership in the long run. Hopefully Intel goes bankrupt and we can put this horrible legacy to bed. Intel no longer leads and the world no longer needs Intel, the Industry has shown it does not need Intel anymore.

The world is better off without Intel.


Why can’t this stupid id--t good for nothing SM just get laid off?

This is a post regarding a specific je-k I have to see every damn day I go into the office.

I see this scrum master who literally says he took the role just to do nothing all day. He laughs at me since I’m a software engineer, saying stuff like “haha I make more money than you to do less work”. Has a snarky attitude. Just walks in like he owns the place. This is someone who made a reputation for himself for being a lazy person. People on his own team call him a slacker often. He’d literally put his feet up on the desk he’d sit at.

I can’t say too much because he belittles me in front of other people, so I can’t say too much without giving away who this is. But I doubt anyone knows this. Every day when he’s at cafeteria, he order a T bone steak, and walks back to his desk with a styrofoam tray that has the said T bone steak. I used to be able to walk away from my laptop when my workload wasn’t too much. Once every 2 or 3 months for that time period that my work was easier, I’d come back to my desk, and guess what I’d see on my desk? An eaten out of styrofoam tray, with a gnawed on bone of a T bone steak inside of it.

He doesn’t do it anymore so I don’t think I can report it to anyone. I thought about reporting every time he did that or taking pictures for evidence. But I was always afraid of “snitching” or being seen as a problem for reporting the bullying. So, I just dealt with it. I don’t leave my desk at Fidelity (due to workload). I don’t want him to speak with me but he acts like everything is ok and he’s the best thing to ever grace this company. I’m one of the only people that are fine with myself coming into an office for RTO, but he made it so insufferable.

He’s a scrumbag. Why can’t he just get laid off? I thought he was surely gonna be gone but he’s still here. He’s a damn cockroach. Better yet, why can’t I get laid off so I can be free and find another job while getting severance pay? Why can’t we just see him lose the job where he does literally nothing all day, or get demoted to a role where he makes even less money, and realizes he’s sc--wed himself.

I know we have many people who are lazy at Fidelity, prior to the sheer burnout from RTO. But how many people here are THAT level of crude? Smh.


Horrible, horrible environment

I've worked some bad jobs before but nothing even comes close to what this place has done to me. The leadership is awful, the managers are worse, and I genuinely don't recognize myself anymore after dealing with it all. It's taken such a toll on my head and my confidence that I'm not sure how much longer I can keep showing up like nothing's wrong.


10 red flags of a toxic boss — and tips for working with one

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/10-red-flags-of-a-toxic-boss-and-tips-for-working-with-one/

Is Your Boss Really Toxic or Just Difficult?

Your boss may be toxic if their behavior is repeated, harmful, and makes it harder for you to do your job or feel safe at work. Not every frustrating manager is toxic, and recognizing the difference can help you respond more effectively. A difficult boss may be frustrating to work with or demanding, but they’re usually still fair and focused on work outcomes.

Following are some notable differences between a difficult and a toxic boss.

A difficult boss may…

Give blunt or unclear feedback
Set high expectations
Be disorganized or hard to read
Struggle with communication
Have occasional bad days
Push for results
A toxic boss may…

Belittle, insult, or intimidate employees
Create unrealistic expectations and punish people for missing them
Create confusion, fear, or constant stress
Withhold information, shift blame, or manipulate situations
Show a repeated pattern of harmful behavior
Take credit, play favorites, retaliate, or ignore boundaries
In many cases, it comes down to how often the behavior happens and how much it affects you.

If the behavior is occasional or tied to poor communication, it may be manageable. If it’s ongoing, manipulative, targeted, or emotionally draining, you may be dealing with something more toxic. Many employees second-guess themselves in toxic environments, especially when behaviors are subtle or inconsistent.

10 Signs of a Toxic Boss

The clearest signs of a toxic boss usually appear as repeated patterns rather than isolated incidents. One bad meeting or tense conversation doesn’t always mean your boss is toxic, but ongoing behaviors that create stress, confusion, or unfairness are toxic boss traits worth paying attention to.

  1. They Blame Others Instead of Taking Accountability
    When something goes wrong, a toxic boss often looks for someone to blame instead of asking what happened or how to fix it. This can happen even when they gave unclear instructions, changed priorities, or failed to share important details.

For example, your boss might approve a project direction, then criticize you later when leadership pushes back. You might hear, “You should’ve known that wasn’t what I meant,” or “I don’t have time to hold your hand through this,” even though they never clarified expectations.

  1. They Take Credit for Your Work
    Some toxic bosses praise your ideas in private but present them as their own in meetings, reports, or conversations with senior leaders. Over time, this can make it harder for you to gain visibility, build credibility, or show the full impact of your work.

For example, you may develop a new process, solve a major client issue, or create a successful campaign, only to watch your boss say, “I came up with a new approach,” without mentioning your role.

  1. They Belittle or Intimidate Employees
    Public criticism, sarcasm, threats, and condescending comments are common signs of toxic leadership. These behaviors may be framed as “tough love” or “high standards,” but they often leave employees feeling embarrassed, anxious, or unsure of themselves.

For example, you might hear comments like, “I don’t know why this is so hard for you,” “Maybe this role is too much,” or “Everyone else seems to understand this.”

  1. They Change Expectations Without Warning
    Changing priorities is normal at work, but constantly moving the goalposts can make it feel impossible to succeed. A toxic boss may ask for one thing, shift direction without warning, and then fault you for not meeting the new expectation.

For example, your boss may ask for a quick draft by Friday, then criticize it for not being polished enough. Or, they may say a task is low-priority, then act frustrated when it’s not completed first.

  1. They Ignore Reasonable Boundaries
    A toxic boss may expect constant availability outside normal working hours, during time off, or when your workload is already full. Instead of respecting boundaries as part of sustainable work, they may treat them as a lack of commitment.

For example, they might send messages at night and follow up first thing in the morning with, “Did you see my note?” or say, “I know you’re on PTO, but this will only take a minute.”

  1. They Play Favorites
    Favoritism can show up through better assignments, more flexibility, more praise, or fewer consequences for certain employees. A toxic boss may create an inner circle while leaving others with less visibility, fewer opportunities, or harsher treatment.

For example, one employee may repeatedly miss deadlines without any clear accountability, while you’re criticized for minor issues. Or, your boss may consistently give stretch projects to the same people while telling others they “aren’t ready,” without explaining how to grow into those opportunities.

  1. They Retaliate When Employees Speak Up
    Toxic leadership can also show up after employees ask questions, raise concerns, or give honest feedback. Retaliation isn’t always obvious. It may look like colder communication, sudden criticism, fewer responsibilities, exclusion from meetings, or negative performance comments.

For example, if you ask for clearer priorities and your boss responds by saying you’re “not being a team player,” that’s a warning sign.

  1. They Micromanage Everything
    Micromanagement becomes toxic when your boss monitors every detail, second-guesses your work, or makes you feel like you can’t be trusted to do your job. Instead of offering guidance, they create bottlenecks and constant pressure.

For example, they may ask for updates multiple times a day, frequently rewrite your work without explanation or input, or require approval before you take even small next steps to complete a task.

  1. They Create Confusion and Unclear Priorities
    Toxic bosses often create unnecessary confusion that makes work harder than it needs to be. They may give vague instructions, contradict themselves, share incomplete information, or make everything feel urgent. As a result, you may spend more time interpreting expectations than doing the actual work.

For example, they may assign a project with little context, disappear when you ask questions, then criticize the final result. Or, they may say, “This needs to be done ASAP,” without explaining what should move down the priority list.

  1. They Consistently Make You Feel Undervalued
    A toxic boss may rarely acknowledge your contributions, dismiss your ideas, or focus only on what went wrong. Everyone needs constructive feedback, but constant criticism or lack of recognition can make you feel invisible, replaceable, or like nothing you do is enough.

For example, your boss might ignore strong results but immediately call out small mistakes. They may respond to a completed project with, “This is what I expected anyway,” or give new opportunities to others while offering you little guidance or recognition.

6 Tips for Dealing With a Toxic Boss Without Quitting
You can deal with a toxic boss without quitting by protecting your work, setting clearer boundaries, documenting harmful behavior, and seeking support before making any major career decision.

It’s not in your job description to “fix” your boss. In a toxic situation, the best thing you can do is reduce the impact their behavior has on your performance, confidence, and career overall.

  1. Clarify Expectations in Writing
    When a boss is inconsistent, vague, or quick to blame others, written expectations can help protect you. After meetings or verbal conversations, send a brief follow-up confirming priorities, deadlines, and next steps.

For example, you might write: “To confirm, I’ll prioritize the client report first and send a draft by Thursday. I’ll move the internal recap to next week unless priorities change.” Doing so creates a record and gives your boss a chance to correct misunderstandings before they become bigger problems.

  1. Document Problematic Behavior
    If your boss’s behavior is repeated or harmful, start keeping a private record. Include dates, what happened, who was present, and any related emails, messages, or project details. Focus on facts rather than emotions.

Instead of writing, “My boss was awful in the meeting,” note what was said and how it affected the work: “During the Monday team meeting, my manager said, ‘I don’t know why this is so hard for you,’ in front of five coworkers after I asked for clarification on the deadline.”

Documentation can help you spot patterns, prepare for HR conversations, or make a stronger case if the situation escalates.

  1. Set Boundaries Where You Can
    A toxic boss may push boundaries around time, workload, communication, or availability. You may not be able to control how they act, but you can be clear about what’s realistic and what trade-offs their requests require.

In practice, setting boundaries often means naming your capacity, asking for priorities, and putting decisions back in business terms.

For example, if your boss assigns a new urgent task when your workload is already full, you might say: “I can take this on, but I’ll need to move the reporting deck to tomorrow. Which should I prioritize?”

  1. Stay Professional and Avoid Matching Their Behavior
    When your boss is rude, dismissive, or manipulative, it’s tempting to respond emotionally. But staying professional protects your credibility, especially if other leaders, HR, or coworkers become involved later.

Keep your communication calm, specific, and work-focused. Avoid venting in company channels, sending angry emails, or making accusations you can’t support. You can be firm without escalating the situation.

  1. Build Support Outside Your Boss
    A toxic boss can make you feel isolated, so it’s important to connect with trusted people who can offer perspective without escalating the situation unnecessarily.

Build support: Maintain relationships with trusted coworkers, career mentors, former managers, or other leaders who can help you reality-check the situation. If colleagues are experiencing similar behavior, keep those conversations professional, focused on facts, and away from gossip.

Use employee resources: If your company offers an employee assistance program (EAP), consider using it for confidential counseling or support. If the behavior involves harassment, discrimination, retaliation, or illegal activity, you may also want to seek legal guidance to better understand your rights.

Contact HR: When you’re ready to take a formal step, bring the issue to HR. Before requesting a meeting, make sure your documentation includes specific examples, dates, the impact on your work, and any steps you’ve already taken to address the issue.

  1. Protect Your Career
    Even if you’re not ready to quit, start preparing for the possibility. Update your resume, save examples of your work where appropriate, refresh your LinkedIn profile, and quietly explore roles that may be a better fit.

Having options can make the situation feel less overwhelming. You may decide to stay, transfer teams, or look for a new job, but you’ll be making that choice from a stronger position.

When Is It Time to Quit Because of a Toxic Boss?

It may be time to quit because of a toxic boss when the situation is damaging your health, limiting your career growth, or continuing despite your efforts to address it.

You don’t always need to leave a challenging work situation, but some environments become too harmful or unstable to manage long-term.

You should consider walking away from a toxic workplace when:

Your health is being affected: If work stress is causing anxiety, sleep issues, physical symptoms, or constant dread, the job may be costing more than it’s worth.
The behavior is getting worse: If your boss becomes more aggressive, critical, unpredictable, or retaliatory after you speak up, staying may put your job or reputation at greater risk.

You’ve tried reasonable solutions: If setting boundaries, clarifying expectations, documenting issues, or talking to HR hasn’t helped, the situation may not improve.
The toxicity goes beyond your boss: If toxic behavior is tolerated or encouraged by other leadership, leaving may be your best long-term option.

5 Ways to Avoid a Toxic Boss in Your Next Job

You can avoid a toxic boss by watching for warning signs throughout the job search, from the job ad to the final offer.

While you can’t predict every workplace issue before accepting a role, you can look closely at how the company communicates, how the hiring manager describes their leadership style, and whether the role’s expectations seem clear, fair, and sustainable.

Scrutinize job ads. Watch for vague responsibilities or phrases like “high-pressure,” “thick-skinned,” or “fast-paced environment,” which may point to stress, disorganization, or unrealistic expectations.

Watch for red flags in recruitment communication. Long delays, rushed timelines, unclear instructions, or pressure to accept quickly can signal a poorly managed workplace.

Assess the interview experience. Pay attention to how your potential boss communicates. A good boss should be able to describe expectations clearly, answer questions directly, and show active listening. If they seem dismissive, negative, evasive, or focused only on what they expect from you, that may be a warning sign.
Evaluate the job offer. Review the offer for unclear terms, unusually restrictive conditions, limited support for work-life balance, or signs that the company is trying to rush your decision.

Talk to your network. Before accepting, ask current or former employees what the company culture and management style are really like, especially if they’ve worked with your potential boss.