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No mention of PTO in separation agreement

RIF'd in February and received my separation package this morning. The dates are right and the weeks lump sum is correct but there is no mention how the PTO will be paid out. Falling under the rule of 60, in a conversation with HR a few weeks ago, they confirmed I would get the entire year's pto. How is that paid out and why isn't it in the separation agreement?


YIR Considered for RIF

Those are in the know now, are YIR and external teama feedback considered during charting out who gets laid off? If GL-32 is very happy with my performance and thinks highly of my contribution, will that matter during RIF where only a few teammates are fired? I joined about a year ago, got 5/5 YIR and was told I was one of the highest rated our of 24+ on our team but the project I was working on got shelved in May due to Reorg. If I get RIFed, I cannot imagine having to find another job right now due to personal situation. My GL31 tried to move me to a different domain thats funded, but that also got stalled due to funding allocation between various teams. My only hope is my YIR and being my GL32s good list will somehow position me to survive the April layoff. No one should be going through this afternoon working so hard every single day and I did like the role despite the grind.


Time Card Blocked

Has anyone noticed or heard of your time card being blocked if you’re going to be laid off? I went to go try to cancel a PTO request for later in the summer, but after April 4, my time card is totally black. I cannot make any changes. Other team members see the same thing. We do expect RIF in our department. Any HR or payroll people have any thoughts on this?


..Remember when the millennial's told you..

Do your best, always. Still, the reality is that the days of staying in one position for 20 years, earning steady raises, and feeling protected from RIF conversations are gone.

For those who are hurting, it makes sense. You invested a lot of yourself. But it’s also a moment to reflect, especially when younger generations have often been labeled as less committed or less invested. When they were just more optimized. You should have been learning from them.

This is the reality of 2026. Nothing work related is special about any of us.

My heart goes out to those who are out of work. There is something here for all of us to learn.


Individual layoffs coming - Expect the Unexpected!!

GL31 here - Execs will conduct individual layoffs throughout the year. This will be in addition to group layoffs of misc teams. In cases where there’s only 1 individual from a team being RIFd, this will be a 1/1 call w direct leader.

Meeting w leaders was 3/19 after massive layoffs complete to give notice of ‘next steps’. They are aware employees are expecting notices & the goal is to keep the next dates ‘confidential’ and have the ‘element of surprise’. Expect the unexpected as more deep cuts are coming.

My friend & peer is GL32. Informed GL30-32 will be part of the ‘individual’ layoffs as to not cause alarm to their teams. Expect sudden ‘retirements’, ‘spending more time with their families, pursuing other opportunities’, etc. But in the end, we all know they were booted & forced to leave. It just sounds better when it’s presented as though it was their choice vs forced.

Buckle up - lots more cuts on the horizon.


You want to know your RIF list?

Ask your leaders in your next 1-1 measurable criteria for next 30/60/90. Make sure you include your plan. How they can help remove hurdles for you.

If they can't commit or are vague....you know already , but want to be passive , its ok.

You now know ! What you do with that is on you !

Hunt or get hunted !


Humana Customers - you are in for a rough 2026!

Unfortunately, all of these RIFs that are removing the actual people who do work and care, are going to negatively impact customers. Humana's biggest issues were they denied many claims and provided terrible customer service / digital experiences. This will only continue and get worse! The Digital products are horrible - they are not user friendly, perform slow, look as if people new to "digital products" are working on them! And, customer service is impacted - if they can't find what they need on digital products, it goes to the 800 number. Customers are dealing with their health - so, they need caring people to work at Humana, well and knowledgeable. In the Digital area, it seems they don't care and definitely have no experience or knowledge! I feel so for the customers - they will have a terrible 2026!!


April RIFs

Already got notified that I need to provide names by April 1st… we’re surviving the 03/19 wave but since I’m being asked to provide names it’s safe to assume there’s at least one round in April. Anyone else get notified? (GL30 here)


Inside Sales RIF

Apparently, inside sales AVPs were made aware of the RIF coming next month and were told to review the impact list before it's finalized this week. All ICs, no leaders.

If you're in the Orlando call center, it would be wise to make sure your savings are in order...I'm hearing that half that office is getting termed before June with some roles moved to Dallas.

You will know if you're impacted if you get an email from workforce mgmt asking you to document your average work day with your FLM copied.

Stay safe y'all!!


3 pets, 7 team members or Thinking in Thrive Boxes for Simpletons

How will my manager manage?

She has 3 pets, 2 performers, 2 under performers.

How will she fit them in the corporate Thrive boxes? With only $16,485.38 cents for raises, 2 of the pets are going to be punished by being forced into the performer box.

I do not see this working out well for my teammates. Feels like more undocumented RIF actions than NetApp's move important asset.

WDGSTIF? Who Did George Steal This Idea From? Oh, well his twin brother of course.


I left MDT and they called me to come back.

I left 3 years ago, and man, I loved it at MDT. I had a great boss, great work, and just the best work friends ever. I was happy with my salary and benefits, too. I learned a lot and became a great professional largely because of my time there. They called me to go back last week.

And so it's devastating to say I told my ex-VP I wouldn't... because Geoff Martha is still CEO and for as long as that is true, it just isn't a stable place to work. I was privy to a lot of the details of RIF work and so much of it really was because of sh---y financial results, despite them calling it "OPTIMIZATION". Eventually they were even sacking really brilliant people that consistently delivered.

Really sad and they could turn it around if the board wasn't a bunch of rent-seekers and would do the right thing and get rid of GM.


HIH Clueless About Layoffs

Band 4 manager here. I’ve lost a lot of talent over the past year due to RIF. As ops has moved over to HIH there’s a whole team over there doing stuff we deal with. Their manager pulled me into a meeting to say his employees were complaining about mine. Mainly that we are slow to respond, and that my team isn’t “nice.”

I asked for specifics and if anyone was unprofessional or outright rude. Turned out the HIH team doesn’t like that my team is direct, asks them to repeat when they don’t understand due to language or the ask is unclear, takes initiative, and basically does stuff fast without explanation because we don’t have time and have too much to do.

More discussion led to him asking me to have my team slow down and be more “pleasant” and to engage in back and forth rather than just getting to the point. I told him my team complains that they get pinged with just “hi” and won’t respond unless there is something actionable too. He asked for us to spend more time helping his team with their work so the can learn and get better and that my team has told his they don’t have time. I agreed. And I said as long as they are being professional, I can’t expect more from them because they are watching their friends and coworkers lose jobs that are being given to HIH.

HIH manager was very surprised and didn’t realize that what was going on. I said as long as we meet SLA then that’s that and I don’t expect my team to respond same day for anything that isn’t a managed incident.

Anyone at HIH on this forum, be glad we are interacting with you professionally. I’ve had team members express downright hatred for HIH. Nothing against you personally, but Cigna is firing us to give you jobs, so don’t expect friendliness.

None of this is sustainable. I’ve told my Director to put me on the layoff list. When I have to bite my tongue to avoid yelling at HIH, and I get no answers from above other than more RIF is coming but my team is okay because we are 20:80, I can’t do it anymore.


Verizon EMEA VBG/GN&T dumpster fire

Even before this week's annoucement, I could tell this organization was one of the most poorly structured "too many chefs" places I will ever worked at. Now we're in a position where Security Sales doesn't know what to sell or if there will be anyone around to deliver, and you have band 5s in the US still saying "EMEA is BAU" and that we still need to find ways to "continue as normal and building the best case for the value of our PS cyber work". so in other words sell / deliver while you can and when it's time we will RIF you all to purgatory and get hcltech to deliver whats left. how the f--k am I expected to work thinking this?


The gaslighting is getting hard to ignore

After 20+ years at Verizon, I’ve never seen morale this low or trust in leadership this broken.

Yesterday’s EMEA call was a brutal reminder of where things really stand. Yet today we’re all expected to log in, smile on calls, and carry on as if nothing happened.

What makes it worse is the constant stream of polished messaging from management and our Exec team that feels completely disconnected from reality. We’re told everything is about “transformation,” “strategy,” and “opportunities,” while RIFs happen all the time and the remaining staff are expected to absorb the work.

I feel like we’re being gaslighted.

Everyone knows AI is coming and it will fundamentally change large parts of the workforce and remove even more jobs at a rate much higher than we've known before. Employees aren’t stupid. Most of us have decades of experience and can see exactly what’s happening.

What’s astonishing is the apparent belief from leadership that the workforce will just nod along and accept whatever narrative is being presented.

After more than two decades here, I’ve never seen this level of distrust between employees and leadership. People can deal with tough decisions and difficult change. What they struggle with is the feeling that the truth is being managed rather than communicated.

Right now, the biggest gap in this company isn’t technology or strategy. It’s credibility.


Post-RIF Ramble (get out while you can)

On November 20, I was devastated. 100+ days later, I am far better. You can be too. I just started a new, great job in a whole new-to-me industry but where my talents are magnified. Hindsight is truly 20/20 - there were plenty of good things about working at Verizon, but the red tape and the lying to themselves and the constant frantic work — and for what?? — it’s not like that elsewhere and my god, why did we wait so long. I’m grateful for my big fat severance and vacation day payout and STI, and now I have a new job where I feel, dare I say, better. ALL OF YOU STILL AT VZ, I can’t tell you enough - GET OUT. THERE IS LIFE OUTSIDE VERIZON. I drank the koolaid for so long and my goodness, the veil has been lifted after my RIF. Why was I so sad in November?