#careergrowth

I joined this company 20 years ago and it is no longer the company I joined.

When DWW says people are the most important asset, he is not lying but he is not painting the whole picture. He needs to add the qualifier that people are a necessary asset and thus that makes them important because the company can not run without them. However, that doesn't mean he cares about the people as individuals with emotions and actual lives outside of work. When DWW says people are the most important asset he says it in the same way Egyptian Pharoahs said it while constructing the pyramids or how cotton plantation owners said it about their slave populations. DWW says it the same way Scrooge McDuck says it about his money. People, like overall wealth is important to him, the individual pennies and dollars are not - those are interchangeable.

I highly recommend employees under 40 look for new opportunities now. I recommend employees 55+ retire now rather than be shown the door via PIP. I recommend new hires do not join this company unless you are willing to give up your soul.

The promise of a 30 year career at this company is no longer true. It has truly become a job. There is no sense of family, no sense of being a technology company, no sense of fulfillment beyond a paycheck.

I've been here long enough to see this play out multiple times. A mediocre person gets promoted. I don't know if they interviewed well or they're friends with someone important. Then they get put in charge of a team of talented people and within six months, the best people on that team are gone. They quit, transfer, find something else. The mediocre manager is the one who stays as the work gets worse and the team gets weaker. And the company acts surprised. Promote the wrong people and you lose the right ones. It's not that complicated. It's just cause and effect. But they never seem to learn.

Life is too short to be miserable at work. If you're not happy here, leave when you can. If you can't leave right now, accept that it might be rough for a while, but make a plan. Use the time to invest in yourself. Take some classes, build your skills. Make yourself valuable somewhere else. Then when the time comes, vote with your feet.

Been working at the bank several years and my immediate team has had transitions either with new teams joining or leaving multiple times over the past 18 months. Tired of living in constant fear I’ll be next. I’m an analyst so a decently transferable role to another field in P&C or Life, I would think. Thinking of trying for an internal transfer but also worried that’ll put a target on my back if they have to do layoffs. I feel like working in the bank it’s just a matter of time.

Let’s be real nobody’s exactly waking up fired up to work at Dell these days. But with how tight and unpredictable the market is right now, a lot of us are still tethered to our roles whether we like it or not. It’s less about passion at the moment and more about stability, timing, and being smart about the next move.

So we show up, do the work, keep things moving, and stay ready knowing that when the right opportunity comes along, we’ll be in a position to take it.

Hey fellow Vteamers! I am really proud of us for completing our Google AI professional certificates and posting about it on LinkedIn for attention and praise. It’s a monumental achievement in showing to the world that we play to win by completing another company’s training materials! When my kids bring home their participation awards, I show them my AI certificates and we celebrate our accomplishments together. AI unlocks EI and makes us amazing humans. This will save us from layoff risk and differentiate us as superstar thought leaders. Yay team!!!!

The whole idea of having a real career at Wells Fargo pretty much disappeared around the turn of the millennium. Nothing’s changed since then.

Does anyone know if your current manager will be notified if you apply to an internal position or if that only happens if you make it to the final round?

Hello my WF friends — I’m hoping to get some insight from hiring managers or recruiters on here. This may benefit others as well.

After many years of solid meets/exceeds performance, I ended up with an IM rating this past cycle. TLDR: my manager and I didn’t really click.

I’ve found a couple of positions in other areas that would actually be a promotion for me. I also have a positive history with one of the hiring managers, as she’s a former manager of mine.

My question is: would WF policy even allow me to be promoted into another role while in the IM “penalty box”? I don’t believe I’m on a formal PIP, so I don’t think I’m required to disclose last year’s IM when applying.

That said, I assume my IM rating would come up during the interview process. If so, I’m guessing the hiring manager would need to make a strong case to move forward with me, given that context.

Anyway, I’d appreciate any thoughts or experiences on this.

I was given the devastating news March 26. I already have an interview April 13 (Monday). No guarantees of course, but it gives some hope. I have probably applied to 10 positions so far. 2 rejections. And there was a contractor who sent me an email that seemed interested. But the role was in DC and paid significantly less with no benefits so I passed on that - not that desperate YET.

I never thought I would be playing this game again. I hope everyone who has gone down this cr-p road is making progress. I told the recruiter I secured this interview with that if they see T Rowe people applying that they are the best (workers not managers). Good luck all.

To those that were rebadged as Infinite employees, are you all on a contract basis now or not? Were you able to keep your same salary from Fiserv over? Are the benefits similar, or better/worse? How do promotions work with a 3rd party vendor or is your career progression over once you get rebadged?

Spent a year building something I was proud of. Brought someone in to collaborate, shared everything openly… only to watch it get slightly tweaked and presented as their idea to the team.

This isn’t the first time. Just the latest reminder that being generous with your work doesn’t always come back the same way.

So I’m done sharing like that.
Done handing over things I’ve poured time and energy into just to watch them get repackaged and claimed. I chose to stay here and finish my project and now I regret it.

All this plus Not to mention Ive gone years being promised a promotion and the raises get smaller and smaller each year. Im dont being the lowest paid but highest achieving on my team. Im moving different now.

part of RIF in Jan, but the job market seems very bad at this point. Did anybody get a new job recently? how are the interviews going? anyone who can share recent experiences in job searching?

Let me tell you how to survive and thrive at Centene (and anywhere else). First, be your own advocate. No manager is going to fight for you harder than you fight for yourself. Second, build relationships with the right people. Not the ones who are nice, the ones who can actually help you move up. Third, play the game. Sometimes that means saying yes when you want to say no. Sometimes it means flattering someone you don't respect. That's not selling out, that's business. Do it with ethics where it matters, but do it. Fourth, deliver results. Your degree got you in the door. Your results keep you there. Nobody cares about your GPA after year one. Finally, remember that no one else is looking out for you. Not HR, not your boss, not the nice person in the next cubicle. You are your own best advocate. Act like it.

Here's the thing. Dell isn't going to suddenly start caring about you. Accept that. Then use it. They offer education benefits? Max them out. Training programs? Sign up for every one. Tuition reimbursement? Take every dollar. Upgrade your skills as much as you can on their dime. Take on responsibility, not because they'll reward you, but because it makes your resume stronger. Then you have two paths. Path one, you become so marketable that you can leave for a better job with better pay. Path two, you become so essential that they keep you when the cuts come. Either way, you're in control. Stop waiting for them to be good to you. Use them.

Or working hard, for that matter? There's no path upward. Promotions happen under circumstances that are genuinely baffling, and never seem tied to actual performance. Meanwhile, the real backbone of the teams, the impressive professionals, get passed over every time. I'll go further - being qualified practically disqualifies you from moving up.

Can someone explain what they do? My friend applied for the “Branch Manager” program and said they would be working with a Market Leader. I always thought Branch Managers were Licensed Bankers,Tellers or Private Bankers that got promoted within the branch. They are now training them for months?

Associate, Advanced, Expert, Principal etc. ?

How the he-l do people get promoted here? Outside of knowing the right folks, of course. Is it even possible?

Okanagan College has reduced its staff. This follows a 50 percent decrease in international student enrollment. Federal changes limiting international students caused this decline. The college implemented layoffs and early retirement programs. Further financial impacts are expected from continued student drops.

Kelowna, BC

https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/605631/Okanagan-College-confirms-staff-cuts-50-per-cent-drop-in-international-students

Hi, my manager gave me a written development plan. I am unfamiliar with the process here - can someone please share if these plans are genuine and have good success rate for me to give it my all? Or should I work on finding a new job? Any recommendations will greatly help me, I'm in a state of shock since yesterday

Just like most of you, I was miserable at TD. Doing the workload of two jobs, with a horrible management team. But for some reason, I wasn’t interviewing because the thought of juggling a job search and an insane workload at TD stressed me out. Well I already landed a new job (much better company) with a 20% pay increase. TD severance still running through May. This is a message to everyone still there - you HAVE to start interviewing! The ship is sinking rapidly, but if you put your mind to it, you can land another job pretty quickly. The job market is bad, but not THAT bad. Get out while you still can! Your life will improve!

Can hiring managers see your current salary? I apply for jobs here and there. I can't even get an interview.

I keep having conversations about moving up, about what I need to do to get there. I do all of it. Then nothing happens. The goalposts keep moving, the budget supposedly gets tight, or somehow the timing isn't right. I'm starting to wonder if these conversations are just a way to keep me motivated without any real intention behind them.

I’m young in my career and all three MCO’s I have worked at have been hellish, with Anthem being the worst by far. Wondering if folks have actually encountered a decent healthcare company to work at? Considering changing industries altogether because of how bad these places are.

(As an aside, Gail and team couldn’t identify true talent if it hit them in the face.)

If you didn’t get Nike shoes, prepare thy self. You are being 9 boxed!! Update that resume!

After analyst two year rotational program what happens to most people? Do they get promoted to associate ? Senior associate? Vp?

How do I become one?

Has anyone had any issues taking a promotion in another dept or location? I want to start looking to make additional income, but I’m worried it will backfire and I will be out a job. Any wisdom is appreciated

Is there a resource in Workday or on the Intranet with information on job levels? There are open roles in my job level but the titles senior to mine. I’d like to understand how titles align with levels and if there are parameters around levels of new positions that one can apply for.

Can someone moving from c12 to c13 plan for the mid part of the salary range of a c13 in the US? Or will it be at the low end of a c13 range?

I've been getting rejected for months and this was the second company willing to interview me and the only one to result in an offer. I've only done low call volume outbound calls in Medicaid and this Customer Service Rep role says it's 60-80 inbound a day. I'm wasting $150 a month in parking at my current dead end job and this role being 100% remote is the only reason why I'm considering the $8k paycut (already tried negotiating). Do you guys think working at Optum until I get an offer elsewhere is worth it? The constant rejections are getting to me mentally, trying not to let this one offer cloud my judgement.

I was laid off in October. I have interviewed with a dozen or so companies over the past 4 months, including a contract position in WF technology for about 15% less than I was making before. Much less when you factor in the loss of benefits.

Last month I ended up with 4 seperate offers (including the WF tech one) in the span of about 2 weeks. Three were with financial institutions and one was with an aerospace company.

Let me tell you how GOOD it felt to call and decline the WF position.

The position I accepted pays 30% more than what I was previously making at WF AND it's full time remote. I've been in the job for almost a month and the culture difference is night and day. This company is excited to have me and I feel valued.

Wells Fargo: Thanks for providing some of leverage needed to negotiate with the better company. You can take the position you so desperately need to fill and shove it. Maybe you shouldnt have laid off the people you clearly still need. There are other companies out there who value my professional experience more than you ever did.

For those of you still drowning in that toxic cesspool: just know there are better places to work. Don't let Wells Fargo devalue your true worth, because it is probably way more than you realize.

• career advancement
• work life balance
• cool cutting edge technology
• money

When I started Wells, wells offered 3 of those.

Now it offers zero.

Last company I worked for when oil hit 120 a barrel went under. Wells wont go under but the Fed will allow it to be bought and merged.

What salary do most people retire at? Say for a CL27, 28, and 29 what would be a typical range for salary at retirement? Trying to figure out how valuable this pension will be if I don’t quit now and stick it out. I have heard that once you hit your mid 40s raises stop.

Any suggestions for best job sites to apply for new job? Friends say LinkedIn - but never had luck there. What sites do you use / recommend? Been out of work 6 months & $ is tight.

Curious if anyone laid off is trying to secure another role within UHC or Optum? If yes, any success with getting interviews or re-hired? How long did it take you to get rehired?

... how are you interpreting it? Did you get salary increase? Does 90% modifier mean your contribution is not satisfactory? Is it time to look for another job?

I know it su-ks to be the one being gutted and left out. I feel for you as I have experienced it myself. As much as it is painful - there is a higher reason for you being chosen. You are being rescued even though it feels like the rug being ripped under you. You will recover and land in a better spot. You have outgrown the version of yourself at Verizon and excel anywhere you go. Sometimes the universe rips off the bandage and places you where you need to be because you are being complacent. I wish all of you much luck, success, and happiness in your post-Verizon life. I know I found in a company that actually values my opinions and work ethic. Peace be with you all especially all trolls that will come here and comment about me being lazy etc. For their information I found a job before my off-payroll date, started a week after and never took unemployment. 🤣