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Merry RIF-mas 🎄( Home for the Holidays)

Merry RIF-mas 🎄, thanks for all the hard work and sacrifice. Thank you for putting your Dreams on hold and neglecting your family and health for the sake of making the shareholders and Execs an extra dollar in their Bonuses and Golden parachutes. Now GTFO your services are no longer needed.


IT took another beating today….

2 months after the August layoffs another massive RIF focused on flattening the org. Aravind’s org took the brunt this time.

What’s next:
IT managers being flipped to IC being discussed.

Elimination of the IT Sr Director role being discussed

Reduction of H1Bs in IT being discussed

Product Org (under Omar) RIF in December

Consumer Org (under John) RIF in December or January

Srini massive Q1 reorg to align with his vision for T-Mobile

The happy go lucky Mike Sievert days are gone. The dark clouds of working under a sr leadership team mostly picked by the board are here. Think of the Lion King when Scar took over the pride lands, that is what TMUS will be the next couple years.


RIF for claims?

I wondered if anyone heard about claims facing RIF. I thought about it through out the year as I filled out my performance review but haven’t heard a single thing or received any emails about my performance in general. Quarterly bonuses end up in my check with no communication or anything sent about them. It’s giving … you’re here for a short time.


No WARN Notice - Confused.

Verizon has not officially filed a public WARN notice for mass layoffs in 2025, although there are reports that the company is preparing for restructuring, staff cuts, and retail store closures. Verizon is also cutting about 2,500 jobs as part of a plan to reduce its workforce by 5% over 12 to 18 months, notes Workforce Bulletin. In September 2025, Ohio enacted its own "mini-WARN" Act, which supplements federal WARN requirements for mass layoff events.

Company news and reports
Reported layoffs: Verizon is reportedly preparing for significant staff cuts and retail store closures as part of a broader restructuring initiative, according to The Economic Times.

Workforce reduction plan: In March 2025, the company revealed plans to lay off about 2,500 employees, or 5% of its workforce, over the next 12 to 18 months, reports Fierce Network.

What is a WARN notice?
A WARN (Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification) notice is a US federal law that requires employers to provide workers with at least 60 days' advance notice of plant closings or mass layoffs, explains the U.S. Department of Labor.

The notice provides employees with time to prepare for job loss and seek alternative employment, says Cincinnati Enquirer.

State-level WARN acts
Ohio: On September 29, 2025, Ohio joined 13 other states by enacting a "mini-WARN" Act, which supplements federal WARN notice requirements for employers in the state, notes Workforce Bulletin.
California: In October 2025, California expanded its Cal-WARN Act with the signing of Senate Bill 617, expanding the state's requirements starting in January 2026, reports California Employment Law Report.

Honest question. How does Verizon circumvent both Federal and State Law to RIF? How are they allowed not to be required to submit notice to WARN Act States?


How do you know when you are next?

I know there probably isn't a way to know if a RIF is coming for you but thought I would ask if anyone in hindsight saw some clues or saw the writing on the wall ahead of time? I am pretty overworked with responsibilities but have for the last several years reported to different people who do not (and have not made any effort) to learn even at a high leve what I do or take any interest in my work. I assume me being generally overlooked means I will eventually be next but then again maybe not because my supervisory team will not want to pick up my work when I am gone since they are so unfamiliar? I am ready for whatever comes. A little worried that someday Elevance my get rid of sub pay -because why not it is a cost to them- and that worries me.


This brings back memories

I truly have sympathy for you guys. I remember having the same experiences. I moved to Hidden Ridge five years ago and that level of stress surrounding RIF time is a distant memory for me now. Sure, I don't want to be laid off but I just don't have to worry that much about getting another job. Last Friday, I went for a beer after work and ran into two guys that were partners in a company. After I told them who I worked for and what my job was, they told me they needed a project manager and offered me a job. They offered a salary that pretty much replaced what I'm making now. I told them I wasn't looking right now but we might have layoffs in our future. They gave me a card and told me get in touch if things don't go my way. My neighbor is an electrician. The company he worked for wouldn't give him off last Christmas so he quit. He went home for two weeks and the same company rehired him and bridged his time because they needed someone and couldn't find someone to replace him while he was gone.


What's your preferred mentality going into a period of RIFs?

Do you act like you are going to get RIF'd? The upside is you are mentally ready if you do get RIF'd. The downside is you caused yourself weeks of stress and worry if you end up not getting RIF'd. Like the saying says, "worrying does not change tomorrow, but ruins today".

Or do you act like you're going to be just fine? The upside of this is no stress and worry. The downside is that it hurts even more if it does happen.

What is your mental state during this time?


It's to bad what this site has become ...

This site was a good place for people to come and share knowledge of events that may impact folks, discuss the challenges of a RIF, and generally share information: USEFUL INFORMATION.
It's turned into a place where babies come to bi--h about working in an office, drawing silly connections to stock prices and earnings to RIFs (complete nonsense), and generally complain complain complain.
OMG JUST QUIT ALREADY.
Oh boy here come the negatives ....


Status Update Would Be Appreciated

Ok instead of having staff constantly look over their shoulder and wonder if they’ll be a RIF casualty, why not send out periodic emails to keep employees in the loop? Heck we got daily emails when COVID struck. If not they shouldn’t have mentioned 11/20 in the first place…I mean it’s good in the sense it gives us time to update our resume but it also stirs up fear and paranoia for several weeks.