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13.8 days required this month, so you need to be in 14 days or get talked to.
I plan to just go in 12 days and let it be. It’s freaking 95 degrees where I am at and now the air quality is bad, way too dangerous to suffer in extreme heat and hazardous air just so I can sit by myself and talk to my co workers on team.
Anyone just going to say f it or are you doing 14?
What exactly do supervisors and managers and above do everyday? My supervisor is either in a meeting or on a call almost everyday, and seems like every 3-4 hours they have to go to a meeting or hop on a call. So my question is, for sups or whoever is familiar, what the heck exactly do these sups do everyday? No way you will have so much to say if you go on a meeting almost everyday for 4-5 hours a day?
I’m currently on maternity leave. My husband got a new job and I have the option to no longer work. Being a stay at home mom has been a dream of mine. If I don’t come back at the end of my leave do I need to pay back my leave? Is there a period I need to return to work to avoid that?
Laptops are being rationed and recycled. Yes, recycled. So that laptop you just got might be 3 years old and won't handle the windows 11 upgrade. Team members are going through three four and five laptops before they find one that can handle Windows 11.
smh.
They want you to come into the office but they don't want to give you a computer.
Meanwhile we have all these groups pointlessly tokenmaxxing.
Technology has always been pretty bad at Wells Fargo. This is unacceptable. How are we going to sell products customers without compute.
We need to fire a lot more people. Unfortunately we seem to be firing the wrong ones
After all these layoffs I might make a president's cabinet next year....
I've noticed a lot of USB colleagues noticing that Americans aren't being hired anymore & are upset about that. I see entire floors full of one ethnitity not previously known to our continent. I thought that's what diversity was & we were cool with that! I thought hiring cousins & castemates & taking kickbacks was what DIE (sp?) was all about? Why must people resist letting some others in the global community come-up, my American family has it all already why should yours who may not be as stable yet take-up a spot & income for our unfortunate friends an ocean away?
(Satire about the anti-Indian sentiment post. I swear to God the liberal mind rot sui-idal empathy will end this country.)
Fellow MBA’s what shifts do you normally work each week?
I now normally get stuck with 2 Closing Shifts , 3 opening shifts
I used to get 1 close and 4 opening shifts when I first moved out of being a CXM
Less closing Was supposed to be a perk of being
MBA vs CXM
And now having AYS , Jewelry and CXC’s added to my list of responsibilities is pushing my buttons
This waiting game has caused so much anxiety. I just want to get that email response so I can get some sort of something so I can see how soon I can be out. And no I am not just going to leave! Just here for support.
We worked perfectly fine remote during Covid. Then it’s back to the office but no assigned seating. Fine. Then it’s tracking days in office. Ok. Then it’s tracking hours in office. Alright making it work. Now they are taking away specialty locations. Annoying and decreases talent pool. But now they want to focus on making teams sit with each other and move offices so people are co-located. Are we children? Give back assigned seats or treat us like adults as long as we get the job done. Next they will be required 4 days and/or certain days. I prefer to find a nice quiet corner to get my work done.
I’m an AM and on my day off this morning got a text and email from Verizon to join a Webex and my dm and sm both asked us all to join it. Even if off. Anxiety is high
I slept for a total of 2 hours, all in 15-minute increments. It's sad we have to go through something like this over and over again these days. I guess when they said layoffs are the new normal, they weren't kidding.
How fu---d are we?
Any chance it'll wrap up today?
My son had a minor asthma attack tonight. In Minneapolis, we've been advised to shut windows, turn off air conditioners so that we can breathe inside our own homes and avoid going outside. The heat index is expected to be in the upper 90's tomorrow. The current air quality index is 520 (hazardous). Downtown parking is limited and taking public transportation requires standing outside, waiting for the bus/lightrail and the walking several blocks to get to the office.
It's incredible to me that we have had to normalize and navigate new infectious pathogens, violent government occupations of our cities and global warming events such as this and yet the MC requires us to strictly adhere to 1990's style work requirements.
I've been following the rules. I dress business casual, take the bus downtown or pay $20 a day for parking, walk a few blocks and then I sit alone and interact with no one except the clerk at the nearby coffee shop for the entire time I'm there. I don't work with a single person at my hub. And I work in STEM, so there's no reason whatsoever for me to be there if none of my coworkers are there. The time, effort and money it costs me to go sit by myself, under florescent lights in a mostly empty office space feels at the very least absurd and at most, intentionally cruel.
I already know the MC won't address this or show that they care in any way. This might be the last straw for me. I can't take one more obstacle in the way of simply doing the job I was hired to do. I'm a single parent, the air outside is hazardous and I'm currently stressing about meeting my RTO metrics for July. This is beyond stupid. It's malicious.
Just curious, any departments getting word of additional duties? If so, list your dept. and if comfortable, your additional duties.
It often feels like employees with strong connections or managerial support receive more flexibility, while regular, hardworking employees are the ones most affected during layoffs. Performance should matter more than favoritism.
It’s disappointing to see some employees take weeks off or work from home without concern, while dedicated, high-performing employees face layoffs. Decisions should be based on merit, not relationships.
Most people quit too late.
Look out for these 12 signs:
Dread Every Morning
↳This isn't a bad week, it's a pattern that won't shift
↳Ex: Your stomach drops every Sunday night before Monday
Growth Has Stopped
↳You've learned everything this role can teach you
↳Ex: You could do your job in your sleep and haven't been challenged in months
Values Don't Match
↳The company rewards things you don't believe in
↳Ex: Leadership praises long hours over real results
No Real Feedback
↳Your manager never talks about your future, only your tasks
↳Ex: Your last three reviews said "keep doing what you're doing"
Constant Small Lies
↳You're asked to bend the truth in ways that add up
↳Ex: You're told to tell clients a project is "on track" when it's not
Health Keeps Slipping
↳Your body is sending signals your calendar ignores
↳Ex: You've had three headaches this week you didn't have last year
Talent Keeps Leaving
↳Good people quitting is a signal, not a coincidence
↳Ex: Three teammates left in six months and no one asked why
Raises Feel Impossible
↳You've asked clearly and gotten vague answers twice
↳Ex: "Let's revisit this next quarter" - for the second year in a row
Passion Feels Gone
↳You used to care, now you just show up
↳Ex: You stopped raising ideas in meetings months ago
Trust Is Broken
↳Something happened that changed how you see leadership
↳Ex: A promise about your role or pay was quietly broken
Skills Are Stale
↳The market is moving and your role isn't keeping up
↳Ex: You haven't learned a new tool or skill in over a year
Gut Says Go
↳You already know, you're just waiting for permission
↳Ex: You catch yourself checking job boards every day at lunch
Staying too long doesn't just cost you time.
It costs you growth.
https://www.leadershipgs.com/newsletter
Every day more work gets added and there's never enough time. If I'm going to be this burned out, I might as well find a place that pays better.
Knowing what's coming, knowing they'd most likely be able to leave with a package, why are they so quick to leave? I'm genuinely curious.
I've seen so many formerly dedicated people just doing the bare minimum now. What was the breaking point?
I never thought I'd say this, but I'm actually looking forward to the possibility of being laid off. If they offered voluntary packages, I'd take it in a heartbeat. I'm just completely exhausted by Shell.
With today's announcement of four days in office, it's time for some of us to leave. Has anyone had luck finding remote positions?
Hard Pill to swallow but due to no job offer and single salary, my hand is forced. See you all on the commute. Might get used to the 2 hour daily commute in a Tesla.
People keep posting that they are safe from layoffs.
Just make sure to use the proper pronouns.
😂
Many years ago when I heard some of my friends had landed jobs at Cisco I thought "wow Cisco is smart to hire them". I even considered buying the stock.
All of them got laid off.
So when Cisco bought the company I worked for I already knew what was coming. The day the deal was announced I should have updated my resume and left. But I stayed anyway. I lasted longer than I expected but those years were mostly wasted.
I watched good friends and talented people get cut. After about a year I made a decision. I was done working extra hours or giving my soul to the company. If someone asked where I worked I would say Cisco but I always added that it was not the company it used to be back in the 90s. These days I even wonder if it was ever really that great.
In the end I gave them way less than my best effort. Sometimes I felt guilty about it. Then I would see someone busting their a** working weekends and late nights only to get laid off anyway. That made the message pretty clear.
Now it is my turn to be let go and I am still not sure which path was better. Should you work hard on principle even when the system does not care? Or do you push back against a machine that punishes loyalty?
I used every bit of that unlimited PTO. I never worked extra hours. Part of me is glad I fought the system in my own small way.
The other part wonders if it would have been better to go down still believing in the mission like Old Major in Animal Farm.
I was trying really hard to get laid off as my EU severance was considerable. I managed finally to get my hard earned money. I do not know what to do with it, just sitting now in bank and ETF fonds. And I have new job with 50% more salary and 20 times more work. Instead of doing minimum/nothing and have 2 hours of meetings per week, one with indian team I lead and other with American manager (who was also laid off recently), now I have to do 40 hours/week and quite often I do few more hours in evenings and weekends. No time to practice guitar anymore, while I worked at dxc I spent my working hours playing... I wish I could again have such a nice work like I had in DXC. If they are hiring, please let me know..
You think you have it bad now?
Just wait until you are expected to be on call and available 24/7 under Musk.
Oh, yeah- he loves H1-bs, too.
Will appreciate serious advice on how I can land on the list of RIF candidates without pushing it so far that I get fired.
I’m in my late 20s so I assume I’m younger than a lot of you here and I’m also assuming a lot of y'all are probably my parents’ age or even older. Reading some of your hateful words on here Im honestly embarrassed for your kids. I can’t imagine if I saw or heard my mom or dad talk the way you do about human beings and all for what ? DEI? What’s the obsession like give it a rest. Why are you so threatened by who somebody beds down with? How does that affect you in any way? Worried they’ll take your job? Maybe stop being such dinosaurs. Stop coasting just because you think you’ve made it in life because you made it to a JG 3 or above. No wonder a lot of yall are being wiped out of your careers and companies don’t want to hire you and pay you for what you think you’re worth. So entitled. If you hate shells DEI policies so much then leave oh wait you can’t because you banked your whole career on ONE company. The new generations laugh at yall and trust me yes we are taking your jobs and yes we are also making more than you are. Nothing but disgusting sad old people you should be ashamed of yourselves. I’m disgusted to know I walk the halls with you. Grow some ba--s you want to act tough why post anonymously say it with your chest let us know your alias ID, post it on teams, LinkedIn etc or even better I’ll set up a gtky and we can have a f2f chat about how you really feel. We can even grab lunch and you can cry about how you’re all being wiped out by hispanics blacks Asians females g-ys and whoever else you wanna blame for your dead careers.
Figured I’d use AI to create this since AI is our future. Thanks copilot!
A chronological descent into corporate madness.
06:30 AM | The Commute of Champions
Spend 55 minutes staring at brake lights because burning gas and inhaling highway fumes is the ultimate prelude to productivity.
07:25 AM | The Hunger Games: Parking Edition
Waste 15 minutes circling the concrete labyrinth just to park half a mile away, then walk to the building like a corporate nomad.
07:40 AM | The Hoteling Ritual
Spend 20 minutes hunting down an unassigned, sterile cubicle and plugging in cords like you're setting up a temporary command center in a disaster zone.
08:00 AM | The Mandatory Weekend Recap
Endure 40 minutes of grueling small talk about Brenda's nephew's soccer tournament and Dave’s lawn aeration schedule. You cannot escape.
08:40 AM | The Stealth Hydration Mission
Take 15 minutes to carefully plot a route to the restroom and coffee machine, attempting to dodge eye contact with anyone who might ask "how's it going?"
08:55 AM | Actual Work (The Rare In-Between)
A shocking, uninterrupted 60-minute window where you actually perform the tasks you are paid to do. Cherish it.
09:55 AM | The Pre-Meeting Packing Migration
Pack up your entire digital life 15 minutes early because God forbid you "squat" on a shared cube while you migrate to a different floor for a meeting.
10:10 AM | The Disappearing Desk Era
Lose 90 minutes of your life to a 60-minute meeting because the first 15 were spent figuring out the conference room HDMI adapter and the last 15 were "organic banter."
11:40 AM | The Power Lunch Sprint
Shove food down your throat in exactly 23 minutes so you aren't late for the next round of synergistic alignment.
12:03 PM | Sensory Decompression Walk
Spend 15 minutes pacing the perimeter of the building just to regulate your nervous system after surviving the deafening roar of the company cafeteria.
12:18 PM | The Hallway Ambush
Attempt to return to a desk but get cornered by a manager for 20 minutes of unsolicited "brainstorming."
12:38 PM | The Cult of Collaboration
Sprint to the next room because arriving late to a 90-minute slide-deck reading is a sin against the company culture.
02:08 PM | The 443-Minute Meltdown
Look at the clock. Exactly 443 minutes of your waking life have passed since you arrived at the office, mostly spent pretending to care about things that don't matter.
02:11 PM | The Personal Hogwash Trap
Try to use the restroom again. Get trapped for 20 minutes hearing about someone's upcoming kitchen remodel.
02:31 PM | The Final Stand
Sit down and frantically work for 51 minutes, typing at 120 words per minute with pure, adrenaline-fueled rage.
03:22 PM | The Great Escape
Spend 15 minutes shutting down, packing your backpack, and walking toward freedom.
03:37 PM | The Doorstop Conversation
Get stopped for 5 minutes right at the exit by someone who "just wanted to catch you real quick."
03:42 PM | The Commute Home (Part II)
Spend 55 minutes crawling back home in gridlock, contemplating every life choice that led to this moment.
The Hard Truth Math
Total Time Invested: 10 Hours (600 Minutes)
Actual Time Spent Working: 111 Minutes
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Total Time Wasted on "Culture": 8.1 Hours
If this day happened at home, we all would have finished actual work before lunch, attended the meetings while comfortably and wouldn't need a stiff drink just to survive the evening once you got home.
But hey, at least management got to see your face in a cubicle. Culture!
I worked for other large companies in the West and the Midwest prior to joining GN&T in the Northeast. My Western and Midwestern bosses were friendly and would greet me, ask me how things were going, make small talk etc…
My Verizon GN&T were the complete opposite. Hardly ever greeted me, didn’t make conversation about work or anything else. One ED wouldn’t even answer if you said good morning if you happened to be riding in the same elevator on the way to the office. This silent treatment makes for a pretty unpleasant working environment.
I’m curious what other people’s experiences are like. Is this a Northeast thing? A Verizon thing? Or what? I’m an introvert and I’m not seeking to start long conversations but greeting someone back is basic courtesy.
Management thinks they're being smart by continuing to replace older workers with younger, cheaper ones. But they're overlooking that young people have boundaries when it comes to work. They won't work nights and weekends or answer your emails 24/7. Productivity is going to take a hit, and I'm here for it.
I know it's tempting to wait and see what happens, but finding work is way easier when you're not desperate. This place is going nowhere fast, so why stick around?
Sleeping well these days? Doubt it. Who could when you're always looking over your shoulder for the next layoff?
Thought I couldn't make it without my Humana salary for most of my two decades at the company. Finally mustered the courage to shed them and can't believe how happy and stress-free my life is now.
How much is enjoying life worth to you? Truly enjoying it, not just putting on a happy face while dread and uncertainty haunt your thoughts. Haven't seen anyone posting "Wish I'd stayed at Humana" here have you? That's because they're finally free and happy like me.
I’ve learned more about ExxonMobil’s policies and the unwritten, dirtier rules outside the office than inside it. I’m sharing what I’ve picked up so far. If this helps even one person who walks blind. Feel free to add to it and keep it a live threat:
IMO. These days, the company pays no importance to retention. The majority of XOM employees in the US will likely have a maximum of 5 years at the company before they finally realize that they are better off somewhere else. 10 years maximum if they are a glutten for punishment and think they are going to make it to retirement eligibility. Considering RE being 55 with 15 years of experience. Who in HR has the statistics of the last 5 years of attrition with the why they were separated, for Campus hires and Experienced hires? What are the breakdowns of left on own will versus MLRP?
My prediction for the future employment longevity in the US for MPT for someone based upon when hired is the following:
Age of hire: 22 - 25, probability of lasting 30+ PA cycles 3-5%.
Age of hire: 25 - 30, probablity of lasting 25 - 30 PA cycles 5-7%.
Age of hire: 30 - 35, probability of lasting 20 - 25 PA cycles 2%
Age of hire: 35 - 40, probability of lasting 15 - 20 PA cycles 0.5%
Age of hire: 40+, probability of lasting 15+ PA cycles 0%
HR does not care about retention. People are a commodity to them and they have sources of cheap labor outside of the US that are going to run the company.